Eric Topol

And it emphasizes how these lifestyle factors, like an anti-inflammatory diet, and also you, of course, get into sleep,

how important that is to deal with this pain.

And then you have a very refreshing outlook about coping, dealing, managing pain, which, of course, most people think it's rooted at the site of injury or where the pain is felt, where obviously it's the master control center at the brain.

And that gets us to, before I get into the new approaches and new approaches,

everything here, which is so great about your book.

One other personal story about your 82-year-old mother.

Can you just give us the skinny how she emerged from having a really bad back injury?

Yeah.

Right, right.

Well, it helps to have a great neurosurgeon to help on that one, especially.

Oh, my goodness.

I assume you weren't part of that procedure.

No.

Right, right.

If anybody knows about operating on the spine, you would be the one.

Now, getting into some of the new stuff here, you know, it used to be rice, and now it's meat, the acronyms.

Can you run through that one?

Well, backing that up and how we have a whole new approach, for all the years, people with low back pain were told to rest in bed.

And then random trials were done and showed, hey, you know what?

Mobilize.