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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

It doesn't get airborne, right?

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And I wonder if you could elaborate that.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And on one of the striking statistics that I didn't know before is that if two people are sitting in a room that had tightly fit N95 masks,

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

they wouldn't transmit for more than a day, breathing the same air.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Can you tell us more about the airborne story and the mass?

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Yeah, I mean, that's striking.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And I think that...

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Something that a lot of people, that statistic, and of course the two-way mask, so critical.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Now, one of the things that you came out in the book, which some will say, hmm, is about mandates.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

As you know better than anyone, we saw all this polarity because of the mandates.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

It bristled a lot of people.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And one of the mandates, of course, was the lockdowns, and particularly schools.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

So I want to get your view about the school mandates.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

This is such a hot topic still today.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Yeah, I mean, I think, and Christian, you know, you called it.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

I think a lot of people didn't appreciate and, you know, labeled you as a scaremonger, which couldn't have been the truth.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

But here you are, you know, you're now trying to take all that wisdom, not just from SARS-CoV-2, but, you know, all the other things, influenza and everything else.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And you're trying to project, you know, what do we have to do?

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And this transcends many different areas about universal vaccines, which many academic labs have been coming up with, not just for coronavirus, but also for influenza and other leading potential viruses that could cause a pandemic.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Surveillance systems, the critical aspect of public trust that you emphasize that we've got to reestablish, getting the right funding.