Eric Topol

big dose, but rather chronic exposure.

So maybe you could give us a bit of an overview of that review that you wrote for NEJM.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty striking.

The one that grabbed me, that kind of almost fell out of my chair, was that in 2019, I guess the most recent data, there is 5.5 million deaths, cardiovascular deaths, ascribed to relatively low levels, or I guess there is no safe level, of lead exposure.

That's really striking.

That's a lot of people dying from something that the cardiology and medical community is not really aware of.

And there's a figure three that will also show in the text, the transcript, where you show the level where you start to see a takeoff.

It starts very low.

And by 50 micrograms per liter, you're seeing a twofold risk.

And there's no threshold.

It keeps going up.

How many of us do you think are exposed to that type of level as adults, Bruce?

Yeah, but it looks like it's still a problem.

And you have a phenomenal graph that's encouraging where you see this 95% reduction in lead exposure from the 1970s.

And as you said, the factors that can be ascribed to like getting rid of lead from gasoline and others.

But what is troubling is

is that we still have a lot of people that this could be a problem.

Now, one of the things that was fascinating is that you get into that herbal supplement,

could be a risk factor.