Eric Zimmer

It may not be as big a move as you would want.

The distance to travel may seem insurmountable, but there's always a move that is towards the better position.

And back to that question you asked your kids, right?

Is this going to get you what you want?

Am I doing something today that's improving you?

You know, there's always something, some small step, whether you're in the deep depths of depression or addiction or you're at the very top of your industry, right?

I mean, I think that's true for all of us.

You say the space between stimulus and response, one of two things can happen.

You can consciously pause and apply reason, or you can cede control and execute a default behavior.

The problem is our default behavior often makes things worse.

Let's talk about what is a default behavior, and then we can explore the four default behaviors that you lay out in the book.

I mean, there's certainly more of them, but I think you've done a nice job of sort of capturing the big hitters.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's talk a little bit more about each of those because there's a lot to unpack there.

I'm going to jump to the ego default for a second and see if you could tell us a story about Mr. Rolex.

I think that's where it came in the book under ego default.

I love that story because as you said, I'm walking home and I think at least I'm not like him.

I'm better than him.

Yeah.