Erik Holt

So they were getting out the door quick.

So we went from like four or five responders to 62.

Yeah, I mean, there's different routes for sure.

We did a lot of OJT because, but I also sent people, you know, so my commitment was I'll pay for fire academy.

I'll pay for EMT school.

Out there, you know, to get firefighter one, I think it was like 350 bucks at a local academy that a professional department was running.

It's more of a time commitment than anything because it's like three months long, two, three nights a week, you know.

And it's grueling, but we were pushing that and they were going.

And so...

I always say like culture is the backbone of everything, which I'm sure you can appreciate, right?

From where you came from.

So my vision was to build the culture that people want to be a part of, you know, and then you take young, eager kids.

I imagine for your world, that would be like some kids fresh out of buds is just raring to go.

And you're like, yeah, this is how you actually do this.

Yeah, I bet.

Yeah, brawn goes so far, intelligence gets you, you know.

Yeah.

You know, I obviously don't understand your world fully, but like, you know, you just harness that energy.

That's the dangerous point, right?

And it's a, you know, it's not like being shot at, but it is very risky.