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He Reported Election Fraud — Then Lost Everything | Erik Holt | Ep. 425

12 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are Erik Holt's experiences leading to his current situation?

1.043 - 15.61 Unknown

Okay, got the red smoke. Gun runs north and south, west of the smoke, west of the smoke. Okay, copy, west of the smoke. I'm looking at danger close now. Come on, win it, baby, give it to me, I need it.

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19.133 - 20.975 Andy Stumpf

What do you do for a living now?

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20.995 - 31.666 Erik Holt

So I'm the director of emergency services, but I actually just got a job offer. So next month, I'm going to be the GM for a hydroelectric company or joint powers authority.

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31.907 - 47.183 Andy Stumpf

OK. So right before in Colorado, you were in the fire service, right? You were fire chief. So then you went to the director of emergency services, which is a little tangential to water. I don't know much about the- Neither do I. Yeah. How did you get that job then?

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47.551 - 48.994 Erik Holt

Uh, personality, I think.

49.034 - 56.367 Andy Stumpf

Was there not a level of requisite knowledge and experience associated with this job? Like, how does this work?

56.387 - 60.634 Erik Holt

They need leadership. You know, they were like, what do you know about water? And I said, I've sprayed probably more than anybody in this room.

Chapter 2: How did Erik Holt uncover potential election misconduct?

60.674 - 69.61 Erik Holt

And they laughed and we just moved to the next question. Like I drink it every day. Yeah. Try to keep that about a fist away from you. Pull that sucker. I'll lean in once we...

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69.742 - 70.343 Andy Stumpf

We're already going.

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70.624 - 73.691 Erik Holt

Oh, we are? If you want to be. Okay.

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Chapter 3: What actions did Erik take after discovering election fraud?

74.413 - 90.373 Andy Stumpf

Yeah. No intro or nothing? No, I deal with that later. Oh. Look, you get like a weird 45 degree firefighter angle on the mic too. Good. Nice. Are my curls straight? I mean, they're good enough. Are firefighters... to have a mustache? Also, how does that interface with your breathing apparatus?

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91.375 - 95.646 Erik Holt

Well, the curls can become a nightmare, you know, because that seals like here. Yeah.

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95.987 - 98.494 Andy Stumpf

So definitely risk life and limb for a mustache.

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98.514 - 100.018 Erik Holt

Yeah, well, chicks dig it, so...

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99.998 - 100.619 Andy Stumpf

Do they, though?

101.159 - 109.827 Erik Holt

I mean, the ones I try to hang around to. It's like a tradition thing, you know. Where did it start?

Chapter 4: What challenges did Erik face after reporting the misconduct?

110.387 - 117.093 Erik Holt

So back before breathing apparatus, it used to be, you know, wood and actual like cotton products that would burn, not fucking petroleum.

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117.274 - 117.434 Unknown

Yeah.

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117.454 - 125.541 Erik Holt

So they would just literally have these long mustaches and beards and they'd dip it in water, kind of fold it up with a handkerchief and go in and fight fire.

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125.901 - 144.707 Andy Stumpf

No way. No. Okay. That. I think led to a lot of lung cancer. Probably. Probably. Wow. Okay. It is one of the, I mean, stereotypical things that holds true for, I'll say, 80% of firefighters I know. I have one, yeah.

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144.727 - 153.32 Erik Holt

You gotta earn it, you know, once you do. But the thing is, as it gets more curly, it's rank-driven. So people know if you've got the curls, you're in charge.

153.821 - 154.041 Andy Stumpf

Really?

154.482 - 156.425 Erik Holt

Not really, but pretty close to.

156.886 - 180.478 Andy Stumpf

I have a brother-in-law who's a San Diego City fire captain. No mustache. Really? Yeah. He probably gets hazed a lot. Well, he's the captain of the station, so I don't think so. He is working at, he's been at it for a long time. They go on fewer calls than most stations. He's worked his way into a very, my words, not his, luxurious area to work in.

180.458 - 184.022 Erik Holt

Which I get. I respect it. Yeah, those are the high bids, man. It's a young man's game.

Chapter 5: What challenges did Erik Holt face after reporting election fraud?

4391.94 - 4399.691 Andy Stumpf

I don't know if we could solve because what's interesting is that the demand still seems very high. Supplies one side of the problem demands the other. Yeah.

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4399.711 - 4416.177 Erik Holt

And here in America, for some reason, we have the most lucrative demand, I guess. Yeah. It's. man, that could be a long day of a conversation there of like, you know, public health and, and social services and stuff. But yeah.

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4416.197 - 4419.021 Andy Stumpf

Well, what'd you see in Colorado? Talk me through what led you to reaching out.

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4420.022 - 4436.303 Erik Holt

Uh, so crazy, crazy madness. So as I mentioned, I did DOD services, firefighter, uh, loved doing that, got full custody of both my daughters in 2022. And, uh,

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4436.283 - 4457.025 Erik Holt

interim position as a fire chief came up right so i got a call on like a saturday morning i was like hey we need you for two weeks if you can do it called my fire chief at the time you know kind of give him the spiel and he's like yeah go ahead man take some leave help help him stabilize well that two-week span turned into like five months and just chaos right and so

4457.005 - 4477.363 Erik Holt

I had never intended to apply for the permanent thing. I thought I was just doing it kind of week to week. But it was where I lived. And so my town had an effed up fire department. I'm a professional fireman. And as life works out, I need to be home as much as I can now. So I applied.

4477.884 - 4485.554 Andy Stumpf

Would you say? I said win-win. Yeah. For everybody. It all worked out. Town's going to benefit. You got what you're looking for. Yeah.

4486.195 - 4503.634 Erik Holt

Due to that chaos was I had no board during that interim period. It was insane. So a board is the governing body, just like an HOA or city council, right? Or a special district board like mine was. They are the key holders, if you will, to the tax revenue.

4503.614 - 4508.001 Andy Stumpf

Okay. So they are the mechanism by which the tax revenue can be dispersed.

Chapter 6: How did Erik's investigation into the election process unfold?

4515.432 - 4529.233 Erik Holt

And at the local level, it is designed to benefit the local level to the max, rather than like a federal entity guiding how you have to do it. And so when I came on, there was one board member who asked me to do it.

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4529.213 - 4546.108 Erik Holt

very quickly after in conversations like the attorney that represented the district was like, oh, I'm not even eligible to be on this board because my voter registration is in a different state. He had multiple homes. And so he was he like left and there was nobody.

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4546.088 - 4564.711 Erik Holt

So there's a special process where the county commissioners had to hold, you know, basically anybody that wants to apply will interview them. They reconstitute the fire board. That fire board's number one priority was to put a permanent chief in place. So those people were my board that I worked for.

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4564.751 - 4591.542 Erik Holt

As we were just kind of talking about the grand scheme, like tribalism takes effect and there's always an axis for us. And so I was hired September, 2022 to be the fire chief on a permanent basis, which was great for my family, which was working great. Got to work, rebranded this department that I thought that's what needs to take place. Like it just has this bad funk to it.

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4592.102 - 4614.05 Erik Holt

It needs to be washed and rang out and kind of represented to the community. in a higher professional standard. And so got to work doing that. We went recruiting. I told you about my guys, Patch was one and Randy is the other guy. My captains came on board. They were studs, man. And we just got to work and built. How big was the city that you guys were serving?

4614.37 - 4628.658 Erik Holt

So the district was 66 square miles, a population of between 55 and 6,500, depending on census, right? Okay. So pretty decent sized. I mean, I don't know what the city is, but probably, you know, the greater Kalispell area is close.

4628.698 - 4651.341 Andy Stumpf

It's tough because there's Kalispell city limits, then there's Evergreen, then there's Whitefish. And then there's summertime where the population like 10X is. Yeah, so that's very similar to how the mountain to Colorado is. Yeah, I would say the Flathead Valley's probably got 100K is my best guess. But that's Columbia Falls, Big Fork, Kalispell, like all of this, and everything else in between.

4651.401 - 4654.446 Andy Stumpf

The Kalispell City, probably 15,000. I don't know. Okay.

4654.426 - 4673.711 Erik Holt

I think it's pretty close because our Woodland Park, Colorado was just down, it's like 10 to 15,000 people. And that's the big town in the county, right? So maybe this is where I'm at. It's more like Whitefish, right? Smaller, 5,500 people. Higher average, more of a retirement age group.

Chapter 7: What were the implications of the frozen bank accounts for the fire department?

4712.48 - 4738.087 Erik Holt

And so there's never supposed to be a full board turnover. Is this the fire board or the board above the fire board? The fire board. Okay. Yeah, for the special district. Okay. Wow, a full turnover, potentially. It was. So five-person board, all five seats up for election. You're never supposed to have full turnover. Yeah. Because you have nothing taking it from that transition period.

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4738.107 - 4760.598 Erik Holt

There's no stability on a board. Yeah, that would be rough. That would be a real game of pickup basketball for the people coming in. Yeah, especially if their intentions aren't great, right? It could be, which we'll get into. But so around January 23, these kind of counter folks, and when I speak of this, I didn't have loyalties to either side. I'm a fire chief.

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4760.638 - 4780.268 Erik Holt

I'm employed to run a fire department and do the operations. The governance and the politics is not my world. I don't elect people. I don't do any of that. In the boards, no one individual has any power. That's how their makeup is. So a quorum of the board for my board is three-fifths.

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4780.709 - 4801.489 Erik Holt

So nothing can tell me what to do or anything in the district policy-wise without a three-fifths vote, which is a great design for a system because it's supposed to have impartiality. So I'm just kind of navigating this. I mean, we're grinding out, we're working, we're training hard, built up this department.

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Chapter 8: What lessons did Erik learn from his experience with the legal system?

4803.551 - 4823.415 Erik Holt

So we get to, you know, January is kind of like when we had our high mark that I referenced back because September to January is a pretty small time window. But we got to work so hard, so fast that it just blew up, you know. I had, when I came on, I said, if we build a culture, people will come, especially in small town America.

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4823.456 - 4836.908 Erik Holt

You know, if you look at like social clubs after World War II, right, they were big. That was their heyday. People want to be a part of something that they see as good in their community. And so it worked. I mean, it worked beautifully.

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4837.468 - 4860.498 Erik Holt

So we went from four or five, it was an 18 minute response time to 62, seven minute response times, more trained personnel, you know, youth, exuberance, all that stuff. And it was going really well. So January comes in and like this counterparty, the Axis force in the story declares that they're going to run for the board as a slate of five people, which is weird in politics.

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4861.46 - 4873.38 Erik Holt

And this is local politics. It gets a little different, but never in my, I've never been hyper political, but to see a slate vote for one of us, vote for all of us was their, their tagline.

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4873.48 - 4873.821 Andy Stumpf

No way.

4874.182 - 4874.462 Erik Holt

Yeah.

4874.442 - 4877.367 Andy Stumpf

It's very Three Musketeers, but I guess it'd be the Five Musketeers.

4877.568 - 4901.728 Erik Holt

Yeah, yeah. And they had some crazy beliefs and ideas. And I just, I tried to stay out of it as I could. They would always attempt to drag me in, for sure. I have some, you know, screenshots of texts and stuff. Like one of the guys that ends up becoming... The board president called me a misogynist on like Facebook group or something. And I was a misogynistic leader.

4902.309 - 4918.431 Erik Holt

And I'm like, well, hey, man, I'm a single dad of two girls. Maybe keep that rhetoric to yourself or not in the public eye. But also my department is made up of half females that respect me. And where are you coming from? And it was just like, oh, it's just political talk.

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