Erin Allman-Updike

So time will tell.

It's the short answer of how are these going to be impacted.

In theory, medical professionals and nutrition professionals also rely on these guidelines when they're counseling patients.

Or when learning in their training.

Or when learning.

Are they going to rely on these guidelines or are we going to see what we've seen with the dissolution of the ACIP where all of the other professional organizations make their own guidelines and that's actually what's used and no one's even using these guidelines?

We don't know.

I do think, like we talked about earlier, what is so different about the way that these guidelines are being presented is how they are being marketed and how much they are being marketed differently.

to the American public directly.

And they're doing so under this guise of caring about people's health, while at the same time rejecting examining any socioeconomic determinants of health

you know, rejecting science in a lot of ways for their own individual interests.

And then also marketing this with commercials like the one with Mike Tyson that shames foods, that shames people's bodies for what size their body actually is.

Again, without any meaningful policy change to make sure that people have access to foods or have the time to engage in physical activity or like any of these other things that we know would be beneficial.

So I don't know, Aaron.

I am skeptical that there's going to be a lot of benefit that comes out of wrapping up these nuggets of truth or these nuggets of what we know to be quote unquote common sense in what is so hard to disentangle.

Good advice from ideology that's not based in science industry ideology.

Yep.

A hundred percent.

The other thing that I swear, this is my very last point, Erin.

Because I don't have time to get into it, but I feel like it's an important thing that I don't want to just gloss over entirely.