Ernst Roets

Exactly. So the solution must be some form of decentralization. But the way to do that, they thought, was to have one big centralized government that sort of manages the decentralization. And then, of course, there were all these laws that were implemented. And it was also during the time of the Cold War. So they had the Suppression of Communism Act implemented.

Exactly. So the solution must be some form of decentralization. But the way to do that, they thought, was to have one big centralized government that sort of manages the decentralization. And then, of course, there were all these laws that were implemented. And it was also during the time of the Cold War. So they had the Suppression of Communism Act implemented.

which said that if you promote communism, it's a crime and you're going to be prosecuted.

which said that if you promote communism, it's a crime and you're going to be prosecuted.

which said that if you promote communism, it's a crime and you're going to be prosecuted.

Yeah, the concerns about the threat of communism wasn't exaggerated.

Yeah, the concerns about the threat of communism wasn't exaggerated.

Yeah, the concerns about the threat of communism wasn't exaggerated.

Yeah. So the point I want to make is by the end, of the apartheid era. The metaphor that was used was like riding on the back of a tiger and having to get off. You know you have to get off this tiger, but the question is how do you get off without getting eaten? That was the question that at least the Afrikaner people were grappling with.

Yeah. So the point I want to make is by the end, of the apartheid era. The metaphor that was used was like riding on the back of a tiger and having to get off. You know you have to get off this tiger, but the question is how do you get off without getting eaten? That was the question that at least the Afrikaner people were grappling with.

Yeah. So the point I want to make is by the end, of the apartheid era. The metaphor that was used was like riding on the back of a tiger and having to get off. You know you have to get off this tiger, but the question is how do you get off without getting eaten? That was the question that at least the Afrikaner people were grappling with.

How do we end this in a way that is peaceful and in a way that would not be- And sustainable. Yes, yes. And it was, the transition, I would say, was at least peaceful, fairly. Yeah, not bad. The violence in townships, I think, is underestimated, but especially black-on-black violence in South Africa.

How do we end this in a way that is peaceful and in a way that would not be- And sustainable. Yes, yes. And it was, the transition, I would say, was at least peaceful, fairly. Yeah, not bad. The violence in townships, I think, is underestimated, but especially black-on-black violence in South Africa.

How do we end this in a way that is peaceful and in a way that would not be- And sustainable. Yes, yes. And it was, the transition, I would say, was at least peaceful, fairly. Yeah, not bad. The violence in townships, I think, is underestimated, but especially black-on-black violence in South Africa.

So that's the... It's urbanized areas that are very poor in South Africa, where the majority of black people live. And... At the time, there was some very, very vicious rival warfare, you could say, between competing political groups who were competing for support of black people, as if that's one whole.

So that's the... It's urbanized areas that are very poor in South Africa, where the majority of black people live. And... At the time, there was some very, very vicious rival warfare, you could say, between competing political groups who were competing for support of black people, as if that's one whole.

So that's the... It's urbanized areas that are very poor in South Africa, where the majority of black people live. And... At the time, there was some very, very vicious rival warfare, you could say, between competing political groups who were competing for support of black people, as if that's one whole.

And the ANC, who's currently governing, was not the biggest initially, but they became the biggest because they were supported by the Soviet Union and the Chinese, and they got weapons and so forth. Well, in terms of getting off a tiger,

And the ANC, who's currently governing, was not the biggest initially, but they became the biggest because they were supported by the Soviet Union and the Chinese, and they got weapons and so forth. Well, in terms of getting off a tiger,

And the ANC, who's currently governing, was not the biggest initially, but they became the biggest because they were supported by the Soviet Union and the Chinese, and they got weapons and so forth. Well, in terms of getting off a tiger,