Ernst Roets
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479 appearances
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard May 2025
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Well, I think the plan is to firstly to be well-organized communities, to have a very strong sense of community, a sense of pride in who we are, to remain Christian and have a strong faith, strong family ties and so forth. That's where it starts. And then other than that, the second step, you might say, the plan is to… to just create certain realities on ground level.
So it's one thing to say, you know, we want more authority or more self-determination, but you have to, in a sense, create that so that what you have created can be recognized. There's no point in saying, well, you guys can have your own place, but that place doesn't exist. So I think what the Afrikaner people need to do is, to a large extent, build their own self-determination.
And I think that's what we intend to do But it would help a lot if we can get recognition for this pursuit as a legitimate pursuit.
No. So you mentioned electricity. In Johannesburg, the mayor just a few days ago announced that people should just wait seven days and then they will have water. So it's not just an electricity problem. There's a water problem. There's a water problem. You're going to have a food problem at some point. Well, if the farmers are targeted, yes. So there are many reasons why...
It's not working and why it won't work. And well, everything you can think of points to that direction. One is just the data. As I said, like you can look at the levels of how crime is increasing, how unemployment is increasing, how government service delivery is increasingly failing, everything, everything. I honestly, how health is deteriorating, everything except tax collection.
That's one aspect of it. Another aspect of it is just the extent to which people in South Africa are turning their back on politics. There's this political vacuum in South Africa, and you can see it, for example, with the extent to which people have stopped voting, how voters' turnout has dropped significantly in elections. People just don't interest it. They vote reluctantly, those who do.
So that's one aspect. Interesting. Why do you think that? Because they feel hopeless? Because they feel the political establishment is completely disconnected. It doesn't resonate with them. People vote for parties even though they don't really like them, but they think this is of all the parties, I don't like any of them, but this one is the least bad, so I'll vote for that one.
So there's a complete disconnect between the politicians or the political elite in South Africa, even the opposition parties and the people. And so there's this political vacuum that has developed. And this vacuum is filled, as my friend Aaron Stansel in South Africa says, either by the good guys or the bad guys. It's filled by the bad guys in terms of organized crime.
So we have these mafias and gangs coming to the fore with significant power to such an extent that the government is afraid of them.
Yeah, well, yeah, I think it is.
It's incredible. So we have a construction mafia, for example. If you build a shopping center, the construction mafia turns up and they tell you, you need to employ our people or else we're going to sabotage your building and stuff like that. And it's a regular thing. And you can't fight them. No, you can't. You can't fight them.
But the vacuum can be filled by the good guys, and that's well-organized communities who take control of what is important to them. And so the future is very, and that's what analysts and scenario analysts and so forth have been saying, that the future is one of deterioration, where you will have communities who will be much worse off than they are today because of the bad guys filling the void.
And you might have flourishing communities because of good guys filling the void. And so that's another reason. But I think the most important fundamental underlying reason why it's not sustainable is it's a political system that is detached from the reality in South Africa. The reality is the distance from Cape Town, the south to the north of South Africa is the distance from Rome to London.
So it's a big country.
uh number one but it's not homogenous by any means it's very diverse yes 11 official languages right it's not just just to restate it's not just black and white at all no no no no no it's certainly not there's this indian community there's what we call colored community in south africa and there are various different tribes you could say or cultural communities within among black south africans and among white south africans
So it's very diverse, different languages, different cultures. And now we have this political system that just says you have individual rights. And in some ways, the constitution, even though it was very much celebrated when it was adopted, it was called the best constitution in the world and the most liberal, most democratic and so forth. It guarantees everything, but you get nothing.
Yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. So we have what they call third generation rights, first, second and third. It's a very vast network of rights that you have in theory. But then the question is, so there's this idea that the highest authority is the constitution, but it's not possible for a written document to have the highest authority.
The highest authority is with the person who gets to interpret it.
So for example, section 25 of the constitution in South Africa, which the government is trying to change, it's a private property rights clause. They want to change it. But currently it says the government can expropriate your property if it's in the public interest. Now, if you ask me as a Westerner, when is it in public interest to expropriate property?
It would be something like they have to build a big highway or maybe there's a military emergency or something like that. If you ask a judge who is founded in this ideology we've just spoken of, they would say it's in the public interest for white people not to own land. So it's a question of interpretation. You can have a wonderful document, but it boils down to how do you interpret it?
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