Ernst Roets
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard May 2025
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And the strange thing is, even though some people are very angry with him for speaking about South Africa, the only thing that he's really doing is he's picking up a mirror and he's saying, look at what's happening in South Africa. And he's retweeting videos from rallies in South Africa. Exactly. He's literally just saying to people, look at this stuff that's happening in South Africa.
Well, a lot of people, I think, I can speak for a lot of people in saying that we're really, really grateful for what Elon Musk is doing to shed light on what is happening in South Africa.
Jan Smits was also very big, who became this Boer general who was an advisor to Churchill.
Yeah, it's, it's crazy. It really is. And, and I have to say the last few months has been quite a ride in terms of what we, you know, the, the executive order signed by president Trump and statements coming from the U S to tell us about that executive order, if you don't mind. So the executive order is a very strong reprimanding of what the South African government is doing.
It says that the South African government is, or as Trump said, is treating certain sections of society very badly. Sorry, that's the Trumpiest thing ever said. And the U.S. will not stand for this. And so it boils down to sanctions in an important way. Which is not, on one part of it says that they will grant refugee status to Afrikaners if they want to go to the US.
Which I don't think, in all fairness, we're really grateful for the public stance taken by the US. And in a certain sense, they haven't gone far enough. But in a certain sense, I don't think the granting of refugee status is much of a solution. Some people will take that up. But that's why I told you the story of the Battle of Blood River and the vow.
We are culturally very, very attached to South Africa.
I think I'm ninth generation.
Yeah.
So I think what a better response from the U.S. could be is to take a firm stance against what is happening in terms of what the South African government is doing, but then to say how can the U.S. support minority groups in South Africa who are really working for some form of self-determination. I think America –
should recognize that it does have part in the problem in terms of what happened historically.
Yes. And therefore, it's reasonable and I think it's fair. And I'm hesitant to say this because I'm not an American, but I think it's reasonable to say that America has some form of a moral responsibility, not to fix South Africa, but at least to try to rework this mess that has been created because it was involved in creating this mess.
Yeah. And the solution, I would say the most sustainable solution is to help such communities to govern themselves, to have self-determination. And it's not only, obviously, it would be in our interest, but I think it's also in the interest of the West and of America.
Yeah, this narrative has become this massive stream that is turned into rapids on a river that just pulls everyone along. And this narrative just says if you're white, then there's inherently something wrong with you.
Yeah, well, I can guarantee... Tell me how I'm wrong. No. Well, I can guarantee you that when I get back home, I'm going to be in a lot of trouble for this interview.
Yeah, it's built and it's a very shining house of cards and it's very proud of its accomplishments, but it's not sustainable. So South Africa has been a victim of Western imperialism in many ways, ideologically currently, ideological imperialism, but also… And this is interesting. The ANC that's governing South Africa today was founded just after the unionization of South Africa in 1910.
And they said that this was one of the major triggers that sparked us to start this movement. And the unionization was after the Boer War, before the union. South Africa was a variety of different republics and colonies governing themselves. And unionization effectively meant that all of these different subsidiary authorities were combined into one big South Africa.
As we know it today, the borders of South Africa were actually drawn pretty much by the British in 1910. And the ANC were vehemently opposed.
You see this when you have these completely straight borders. You know, that's artificial. And so the borders we have for South Africa today was a product of Western imperialism. And now those in power would very much like to maintain these borders because they have control. And so if we are truly anti-colonialism and anti-imperialist, we should return to a position where people govern themselves.
And we have to ask them nicely to make certain concessions.
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