Esther Perel

And I've found in the last few years I've actually needed it more than ever before.

She hasn't changed at all, her position.

And for a while I was thinking maybe she could change, but it's probably not fair to say she needs to change just to make me feel a certain way.

This has been a constant issue in our relationship is this mismatch in need for affection.

She doesn't need it at all.

Yes.

It's a great question.

No, they're quite affectionate.

They're quite affectionate.

You have to be very careful to pick the moment.

Correct.

So you can, if they're not feeling like it.

Right.

Yeah, they will recoil very quickly, but sometimes they need it desperately.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, the example...

I would give you as a way I've tried to increase the amount of affection is that I've noticed that our kids love it when they see us hugging.

They just laugh and just get very excited by it, especially the youngest.

And so I thought maybe that's a way to get her to, so I'll say, hey, I'll trick her and say, kids, look at this.