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Ethan Evans

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1020 total appearances

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

I'm going to say something nice to you.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

Then I'm going to slip in a little bit of like, oh, you could do this better.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

And then I'm going to say something else nice.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

Well, the problem with that is most people, they hear that there's a criticism in there, but they don't hear criticism.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

Actually, I have to change.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

I have to do something different.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

They don't hear that part.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

And that's, again, managers aren't trained to do this.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

Well, let's look at your corporations.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

You know, when you worked in corporate history, how many of your managers had actual training, would you say, and how to be good managers versus they were just top performers on the trade desk or wherever and got moved up?

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

Yeah, and I would say it's normally even less than that.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

A top performer in an individual role gets made a manager because they want it and they're good at what they do.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

And so it's assumed, oh, you're a good engineer, you're a good designer.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

you can manage designers well there's no proof of that yeah and even if it is true you certainly haven't been told how to give good feedback and so you're left um you know there are cases where i've hurt people because i had to learn on the job and i did it badly because i didn't have the skills in the training and so to your point of feedback

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

I once had in my very first job, one of the very first performance reviews I ever gave, I thought very deeply about where can this person improve and what do they do well?

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

And I gave this, I was young and this employee was older than I was, which is already awkward.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

Like I'm reviewing someone, you know, significantly my senior.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

Well, I did, in my opinion, a pretty good job actually noting strengths and weaknesses.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

What I didn't at all do was understand the relationship dynamic here.

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Ex-Amazon VP: Do This at Work to Get Promoted Fast | Ethan Evans

And so I pissed him off and he fought me and undermined me the rest of my career there.