Eugene Daniels

They gotta clock it.

They gotta clock it.

Come on.

Come on.

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The way to stand up to a bully, to a tyrant, is not to bend the knee.

Exactly that, right?

He is asking him questions.

He's giving him answers.

There's some pushback.

If people listen to the audio online, they're having a conversation about what's happening.

And that is what's key here.

And Terry's right.