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MS NOW Presents: Clock It with Symone and Eugene

05 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the background of Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels?

2.14 - 9.754 Symone Sanders Townsend

Simone Sanders Townsend and I have known each other for more than a decade since she was the strategic mind behind the country's top Democrats.

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10.176 - 21.049 Eugene Daniels

Y'all want to hear from Bernie Sanders? Back in the day, Eugene Daniels and I sometimes disagreed. He was, after all, reporting on my then-boss, Vice President Kamala Harris.

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21.19 - 38.689 Symone Sanders Townsend

And honestly, when you talk to people in the White House, people are starting to feel a little bit more pessimistic. And now, instead of being at odds as White House reporter and White House staffer, we're friends and colleagues, dissecting what comes across our feed just like everybody else. This is people who are getting paid with taxpayer dollars. It's corny.

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Chapter 2: How do politics and culture intersect in today's society?

38.709 - 53.911 Eugene Daniels

It's corny, it's trolling, and it's not funny. Yeah. And we'll continue to stay on top of political news, but we'll cover much more in a new show, MS Now Presents Clock It. We get along so well because we are both fluent in politics. And culture.

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53.931 - 64.969 Eugene Daniels

When we're not mic'd up for TV, we're talking about how politicians are stealing music and slang and aesthetics to make themselves seem powerful and relevant. Putting out where he looks very superhero-esque.

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64.989 - 65.93 Symone Sanders Townsend

Very Tony Stark.

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65.95 - 68.935 Eugene Daniels

It's giving Tony Stark. He's hopping out of the government vehicles.

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Chapter 3: What recent events highlight the blending of politics and pop culture?

68.915 - 78.971 Symone Sanders Townsend

Because while most political coverage is focused on the White House or the Hill, the real political games are being played outside, on football fields, on the runways, and on TikTok.

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79.412 - 94.956 Eugene Daniels

Okay, Sabrina Carpenter saw this, tweeted, this video is evil and disgusting. And to fight back in this crazy world, to win the war of ideas and the war for what's right, the people need to know exactly what's going on. They gotta clock it. Come on.

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94.936 - 109.017 Eugene Daniels

On our new podcast, MS Now Presents Clock It, we're positioning ourselves at the intersection of culture and politics so we can report back to you who's hijacking what, for what reason, and precisely how much any of it matters.

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Chapter 4: Why is it important for the public to 'clock' current events?

109.417 - 118.21 Symone Sanders Townsend

Clock It is where we talk about what we see and hear in the news so you can start to clock it too. New episodes drop every Thursday starting February 12th.

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118.19 - 131.423 Eugene Daniels

And sign up for MSNOW Premium on Apple Podcasts so you can listen to all the good stuff without ads. We'll even be dropping some VIP bonus content just for subscribers. Now clock that.

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Subscribe to MS Now Premium on Apple Podcasts for early access, ad-free listening, and bonus content to all of MS Now's original podcasts, including the chart-topping series The Best People with Nicole Wallace, Why Is This Happening?, Main Justice, and more, plus new episodes of all your favorite MS Now shows ad-free, and ad-free listening to all of Rachel Maddow's original series, including Rachel Maddow Presents Burn Order.

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Chapter 5: What can listeners expect from the new podcast series 'Clock It'?

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Subscribe to MS Now Premium on Apple Podcasts.

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