Evan Bernstein

And like I said, they expected that it was going to be the opposite result here.

And I think the main thing was that they may have thought that birds might fear men more due to historical hunting patterns.

That was one of the things they speculated, but they really can't pinpoint it.

Here's what they said.

And again, it was a one meter distance on average.

We discussed various hypotheses to explain birds' escape responses related to the observer's sex.

However, further research is necessary to fully understand the phenomenon.

And when they're saying sex, it's important to understand that it's an operational framing as opposed to associated with the observers themselves.

It's not some proof that birds conceptually recognize human gender categories, right?

So that's the subtlety there.

Behavioral ecology, small effects, hidden and confounding factors, they're often difficult to untangle.

So this was by no means robust.

It's interesting.

And like Jay was talking about with his news item,

You make a sensational headline out of that, people are going to stop and take a second look at it to read the product.

And it does work.

It definitely does because it's just – I don't know.

It just jumped off the page at me like, what?

Are you kidding?

Evan, did you emphasize that this is city birds?