Evan Hafer

He's got a tennis racket.

He's like playing the U.S.

Open in his head, whatever he's doing.

And then...

On the corner, no less than 50 feet away, there was a half-naked lady taking a shit.

And you're like, nah, time to leave.

I think we're all good here.

There's nothing you can do.

Oh, really?

Yeah, that's right.

It's the same where we were at in Salt Lake.

I'd have full-time security out in front of the, literally in front of the building.

It's almost a difference between hashtag van life and hashtag meth life.

Yeah.

There's a big difference.

live out of his van that's like the the minimalist attraction right where you're like i i don't have anything other than what's in my van or on my back where life is simple i don't have to organize anything i can stay focused i i think that's a it's an interesting thought exercise especially when you're younger you're like okay cool i can wrap my head around that yeah and it's completely respectable a lot of these hippies i shouldn't say that in the context of like hippie dance around the flowers in my hair a lot of these like climber crunchy guys

They are hard-committed, like, bad mofos.

Oh, yeah.

When they're living on dog food, like, there's this great story about the founder of Patagonia where he went to the store, he was climbing El Cap, and I'm trying to recall a story from Outside Magazine from, you know, 20 years ago, but in general circumstance, it's what it is, where he went to the store, he's going to be climbing El Cap for months, and he's just working on a specific route, and

And he went to the store to buy food.