Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day Oh, man.
What's happening, baby?
Everything and nothing at the same time.
I was just explaining all the shit that's on this desk. It's like everybody likes to give me something that sits here, which is kind of cool. Like Ed Calderon gave me this. It's like a WD-40 with a lighter attached to it. You can fucking blast people.
Is it like a self-defense?
I don't know. He's always got these things, like cartel things.
That looks like it's 3D printed. Yeah. Yeah. I think it is. That's cool.
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Chapter 2: What unique items are featured on the desk?
Yeah. I mean, it's a little portable flamethrower. Holy shit. I love this. From two common items. And then I think it was Luke Caverns gave me this. Is that who gave me this?
the old mech head it's from the old mechs oh is that what it is yeah and then of course my man john reeves has always given me these mammoth things i got mammoth oh this is actually from colossal but he gave me a a 1911 handle that's legit yeah even though do you have any 1911s no yeah i got 2011s yeah of course it's a it's a huge upgrade
Yeah, but, you know, I'm sure it'll probably be able to fit. Like, you could bring it to a gunsmith. He could make it fit.
Yeah. Well, you know what you could do? You could have him make one for your bow. So you could put the bone on each side of your bow. Oh, I have that. You have it?
Yeah, from Rattler Grip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is another piece. Shout out to Handsome Rob at Rattler Grip. He always hooks me up. Gives me those keep hammering ones.
Yeah, those are cool.
Yeah, it feels better too. It feels better in the hand. It's interesting, Hoyt doesn't have a whole lot of options. UltraView doesn't make their handles for Hoyt, but they make them for Matthews because he shoots Matthews. But it's a nice handle upgrade. It really does, the way it sits in your hand, it really does feel a little better.
Are you still putting them on your Hoyt for everyone? The rattler grips. You do? Yeah.
He just sent me some new ones. It feels better. And the bone, there's something about the bone. It's more tactile in your hand than the plastic.
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Chapter 3: How does the conversation shift to archery and shooting?
So she's like, you can no longer use this as your backstop because it was just a pile of shit that I could basically shoot arrows at.
Oh, that's a bad trade.
It's a super bad trade. Yeah, I need a backstop. You got to fuck off. We were talking about must-haves for backyards. I'm not living in a house where I can't shoot at least 50 yards. No. I go out in the backyard. I get my range finder. I bring a range finder when I look at houses. No bullshit. Are you serious? 100%. I've been doing it for the last six, seven years.
Before I bought this house, when I bought the house in Austin, it was a big yard. I'm like, we're good. I just had to find a spot. I was like, this is at least 100 yards from here to here.
Have you ever punched the trigger and put one out in the river? I guess you shouldn't tell me that.
No, I never shoot towards the river because it's kayakers. You never know when something, because like the kayakers, they like to go like real close to the shore. Well, yeah. And it's like, if you hear... Fuck, that would suck. Oh, my God, I'd be in such deep shit. I would never do it. You would be in such deep shit? Deepest of deep shit.
An asshole like me who's always promoting archery, I shoot a kayaker with a field tip right through the fucking forehead. See some poor lady?
Like a unicorn running off the river. Oh, God.
Oh, my God. I very rarely I mean if I'm shooting broadheads. I really know where I'm going. Yeah, I don't I don't fuck around But with field tips, I'll launch some bombs, but it's never in an area where there's anything behind me No, I don't I had cider archery little archery range in the back of my Salt Lake City building and every like and I used to let everybody
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Chapter 4: What insights are shared about the importance of mental focus in shooting?
vehicle for my cream and sugar.
I know, but wouldn't that be okay if you just had good coffee and did that and didn't burn it?
Well, I do. I think that's where third wave and fourth wave, it's more directly related to the quality of the coffee. It's no cream, no sugar. And it's more first and second wave. It's cream and sugar because you're going to have to cover up the inconsistencies.
Well, some people just like it anyway because what they're getting is a treat. They're not thinking it was like I'm drinking coffee. Like they're getting a treat.
Right.
Like if you have order a Frappuccino. It's a milkshake. It's a milkshake. Yeah. Yeah. There's tons of sugar. Yeah. Tons of caffeine too.
You're like sitting in your cubicle. Yeah. You've got, like, 100 grams of sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine. You're, like, you're skyrocketing with just energy until you crash, and then you need another one in the afternoon.
Yeah, and then you're just doing that all day and frying your central nervous system, and then when you get out of work, you just die.
You just go home and... Go home and melt on the couch and watch some sports, man.
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Chapter 5: How did Evan Hafer's wife react to his military background?
It's difficult. It was like my wife, when we first got together, she's the first girl that, or first woman, I shouldn't say girl. She's the first woman I told because I was like, fuck this place. I'm out of it anyway. So if, if I get rolled up, I get rolled up. Who cares? I'm out anyway.
Did she—was she initially like, whoa? Like, how did she handle it?
Well, so we were— Did you give her, like, details?
Chapter 6: What insights does Evan share about the dynamics of his friendships?
No, no, no. Because she had met some of my friends, right? And, you know, the guys from the community are fairly obvious because they look like you. And they're jacked, tattooed. You know, a lot of them are, you know, big beards. It looks like— Let's take the Hells Angels. Right. So like I don't work for the State Department. That's fairly obvious.
Like State Department, they're going to wear suits and, you know, they're come out of Harvard and they use really long words all the time. They're not like they don't look like they're getting ready to commit a felony. And and so she would be around, you know, at our kitchen table or whatever. And you'd have all these guys there.
that look like, you know, they're NFL Hell's Angels, and I look like this, which, you know, is intimidating nonetheless, but I could get away with it. I could sell that, but they couldn't. She's like, well, so you work for the State Department, but what is it that you actually do, right? I'm like, you're not a janitor, obviously. I'm like, ah, you know, we...
We train assistant advisor or something. And then after a while, you know, getting to know her, you know, six months or however long we'd known each other, we were driving down the road and I was like, I actually work for the CIA. And she's like, I know. What are you, a fucking idiot? I'm like, yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Yeah.
And it's funny because even now today, right, it's like a lot of my friends will come by that I haven't seen for years. And she always has the same kind of, like, eye roll. It's like, okay, you guys are going to be up until, like, 2 in the morning. Like...
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Chapter 7: How did Evan transition from martial arts to comedy?
drinking at the kitchen table, talking shit about everybody that you used to work with. Yeah, that's right. It's like, and it's so dramatic, right? It's like, it's such a sewing circle at times with people and it's all the same people are the same regardless of your profession. It's like, they're always talking shit and that guy's a good dude, that guy's not.
It's so fascinating to me, like James O'Keefe stuff, like how much they bust people that talk about things they should never talk about with people that are just on a date with. Yeah. Like not even like your wife of 10 years. No, no, no, no, no. Some lady or some guy. It's a lot of it. It's chatty gay guys. Yeah. A lot of it is gay guys. Like, I'll tell you how we do it.
And they're on a date with some guy and they're trying to impress him and they start telling about what secret covert things they're doing that's totally illegal. And they do it all the time.
Oh, it happens all the time in D.C. And it doesn't really matter what party or wherever you go. You always have the guy. And it's so funny because I would go to, you know, whatever party X. And depending on the venue, it might be like State Department, FBI or whomever. And you can always tell who works for whom. And it's always like they're always trying to...
out jockey each other for who works for the better government service and i used to always tell people i was a janitor so they would leave me alone and uh i'm a janitor at northrop grumman like why are you here like kind of a thing my god that's what i do it's you know it's my passion i love them shit shit stripes and toilets man i gotta wipe them out
and but then the the all the other guys were like jockeying for like fbi or state department or wherever they're going and then it's always the guys like i can't tell you who i work for and you're like oh then you just sit back and listen you're like let me hear where this guy's going this is gonna be a fun one you know like get a couple of drinks at them yeah yeah yeah and it's just full of shit you're just like so full of shit well that's the thing about
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of AI on future professions?
important people that have achieved a high level of success everybody wants to pretend they're that yeah there's a lot of people that want to pretend they're that person because it's so hard to become that person but it's you can convince a lot of people that don't know any better that you are that was a big thing with martial arts big thing with martial arts it was in especially in the 80s well so in the 80s when I first started
No one knew anything. It wasn't like today. Today, if you get in a street fight, if you're a high school kid and you get in a street fight with another high school kid, there's a high likelihood that that kid knows how to leg kick. He might know a blast double. He might know an arm triangle. You might get fucked up. They might know how to fight. Back then, no one knew how to fight.
It was very rare. There was one kid who knew how to box. It was always the wrestling team, which were the most dangerous people. Those guys were the worst. Those guys, they're the hardest motherfuckers in the school always. And I didn't even realize that until I started wrestling. I was like, I'm amongst these fucking elite killers.
And they're just walking around with everybody like they're normal. And you realize the level of commitment and dedication involved in being an elite high school wrestler, just a high school wrestler. It's fucking off the charts. These kids were going to camps all through the summer. They would get sent off to wrestling camp. They were training year round.
And I just hopped in in my sophomore year. I did one season of wrestling. And I was like, this is crazy. Like the level. I had no idea. I was hanging around with these people. I thought they were normal people. They're like kids that were like little soldiers. Like all of them, thick neck, little fucking soldiers. And you realize like, wow.
It opened my eyes like, Jesus, there's these people around. And they were never even considered martial artists. until the UFC. Nobody really understood, unless they actually did wrestling, how helpless the average person is with an elite wrestler. You have no chance. It's not like, maybe you'll be able to hit him before he takes you down. Nope, no chance. He's going to shoot on you.
He's going to... You have no chance. You have zero chance. But there was always a bunch of guys who were pretending they were martial arts experts. It was a really common thing. And then you would talk to him like, where do you train? What do you do? And it was always some guy who like learned some – there was one guy.
This guy actually wound up getting arrested for murder and he's in jail right now. He had lied to everybody and told them that he was a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. And he was even teaching people and he knew almost nothing. And this is like in the early, early 2000s, I guess, like the late 90s, early 2000s. And it was just starting to catch on. People were just starting to understand that.
the depth of martial arts because of the UFC. But it hadn't really gone mainstream until about 2005. And this guy was telling everybody he was a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt and then Eddie Bravo trained with him. And Eddie came back to me and was like, man, something's wrong. He was like, this guy is terrible. He didn't know shit. And I was like, really? He goes, yeah, I think he's a fake.
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