Evan Hafer

I think there's something about getting the shit kicked out of yourself too, right?

Oh, yeah.

There's something about facing someone, which I don't do jiu-jitsu just as a caveat to that, but being able to face another person in any scenario and then compete against them.

Yeah.

So where everything counts and then literally just getting the shit beat out of yourself.

and going, okay, well, I'm going to step back up.

I'm going to do it again, right?

That level of teaching yourself mental endurance, like, that is the thing that I constantly think about my kids.

Like, I'm like, how do I...

be compassionate caring loving you know the dad that wants to give them everything and then how do you like translate that into also creating obstacles that will drive mental courage I just I think you do it by example I think that's the best way yeah

Right.

And it's like it's overused.

But the level of endurance we encourage when it's like that trade alone, just trying to understand courage, like who has it, who doesn't have it.

And then the level of commitment to a mission or something bigger than yourself.

Yeah.

It's it's it's the thing that I think about, I'd say a huge percentage of of the last several years, especially, you know, as I get a little bit older, right, a little bit further away from the GWAT.

And I was with I'm doing a documentary on Earl Plumlee.

You know, that is.

No.

So he's a Medal of Honor recipient, former Green Beret.