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Evan Spiegel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
630 total appearances

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

really worth reading.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

It's all about the innovation process.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And actually, when I read it, I was like, oh my gosh, that kind of explains a lot of how we think about innovation at Snap.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And I think to summarize the academic version, we can talk about like what we've developed and built at Snap, but like to summarize, you know, essentially his findings are that, you know,

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

Basically, if you want to deliver a product at scale, you usually need quite a large organization.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

A large organization needs hierarchy and structure, a lot of operational rigor.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And as soon as you have an organization that's very large and very structured like that, people become very focused on getting a promotion, getting into the next step of the hierarchy.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And that means that all of a sudden, they become a lot more risk-averse.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

They're not really as willing to try new things.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

They're very focused on achieving the goals that have sort of been set for them in this operational hierarchy.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And that makes it very, very challenging to innovate.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

Now, on the flip side, structures that are really healthy and constructive for innovation typically are very, very flat.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

That's the same for our design team, for example, where there's no one that has a fancier title or a role.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

There's a lot of flexibility in terms of the ability to try new things and fail quickly and put up crazy ideas.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And what he basically finds is that the companies that are very successful actually have both types of organizations inside their company.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And that the leaders of the organization are the ones who are responsible for creating a healthy functioning relationship between the two types of organizations.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

Because what ends up happening in a lot of companies is that, you know, the small innovative team becomes critical of the large organization.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

Oh, they're so bureaucratic and slow.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

They don't innovate, you know, things like that.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Snapchat CEO: Why distribution has become the most important moat | Evan Spiegel

And then the larger organization is like, oh, what are these jokers doing?