Evaristo Salas Jr.

And because you're affiliated with this gang or were affiliated with, you can't be here.

So we're going to either go attack you or we're going to fight or whatever.

So for about, I think it was about five years, everywhere I went I had to fight or they were going to attack me.

Well, the strange thing about it, it's pretty much the same.

It's almost just a replay of what's going on, you know, on the streets, but on a more serious level because now they're really established, they're organized, and this is their place, you know.

If I was to go, let's say, to another prison that's dominated by one gang and say, look, I'm not with this stuff anymore, they're still going to stab me and try to kill me to get me out of there.

And then if I do that, then they're going to send me back to where this other gang is, and they'll go, oh, you didn't stand up for yourself, so now we're going to stab you and we're going to try to kill you.

Or forget that.

You're just going to stay in the hole for the rest of your time, and you're never going to come out.

And if you get labeled weak or something, then all the groups get a piece of you.

And that's the horror.

So your best bet is just to fight every time you can.

Stand with your own.

If it's your gang, then stand with them.

And because to do anything other than that is going to make it even worse.

I made a decision.

I didn't get down, which is I didn't get fired, I didn't get involved.

I stand by that decision.

Whatever you guys decide, I accept.

And they were like, all right, well, you're expound.