Eve Rodsky

So I hear a lot of arguments like that where religious theory comes into the discussion.

What's interesting about that is I'll just say that I can't combat religious theory and what your beliefs are, but all I can say is that considering I come from a very Orthodox Jewish family where I understand that thinking, one thing I will know from a sociological perspective is that female seclusion is something that has been around since the beginning of time.

The ultimate tool of the patriarchy is keeping women in the home.

Well, I think if we argue, Nicole, that we are arguing for a hard life, we're not going to win.

I think the beauty of the trad wife movement is that it shows a soft life.

But here's the beauty of the trad wife movement.

If you compare it, I'm having a graduate student do this.

I'm having him look at trad wife content and asking which cards it falls into.

It's never middle of the night comfort.

It's never medical and healthy living.

It's never garbage.

So it's never those daily grinds that I was telling you about.

It's never a woman saying at the pediatrician's struggling with a kid who's screaming that they don't want to get their vaccine.

It's never, like I said, garbage overflowing.

It's all this work that is non-daily grind work.

So it's focusing on non-essential work that ultimately can become commodities that these women can sell.

Like sourdough bread.

Exactly, right?

And garlands.

And home decor, those are fair play cards.