Ezra Klein

And I'm not proposing... People in my email inbox, I'm not talking to you here.

You keep saying, though, that you're not trying to demonize billionaires.

In fact, what you're doing is trying to humanize and be good for them.

I think it would be good for them.

Say more what you mean, because what I keep hearing you say in your ads and in your speeches is that

It's the billionaires versus the rest of us.

Yes, I believe that.

And so walk me through the distinction between not demonizing them, but also seeing them as the fundamental class enemy.

What should we do about the the rage economy?

What should we do about kids spending, you know, two to five hours a day, oftentimes on TikTok?

Or the simulacrum of friends.

Yep.

Of lovers, of companions of different kinds.

I mean, when... I found it a little chilling when Mark Zuckerberg was on Dorkash Patel's podcast and he said...

Look, most people have three friends.

They want something like 15.

But who's got the time?

I'm paraphrasing, but not by much.

And suggests, as many people do, that AI will fill that gap.

And I think Meta in particular sees, given what their business is, you can create these AI companions of different kinds.