Ezra Klein

And as such, masculinity in its healthy spaces and its healthy development has tended to insist upon self-mastery and discipline.

It is a way of channeling strength and competitiveness and aggression, and yes, testosterone and thymus, in a direction that is pro-social, in a direction that is committed to its obligations to others.

to children, I am amazed at how little there is about fatherhood in these books.

It was this one, as I read more of this and I read, you know, some of the people you had written about, I had, this is what I mean that I came out less sympathetic to all this than I went into it with.

I had assumed that all this talk about virtues, somewhere somebody was going to talk about what I understood to be virtues.

Right.

But no, they just like the word virtues because it sounds old and they like old things because they think it was better before.

There's no virtues anywhere here.

And the way you see it is in the people who are now, I think...

the leading voices you have donald trump this virtuous disinhibited incredibly corrupt man with his multiple wives his like endless amount of sexual harassment his inability to control himself and be decent to other people you have nick fuentes it's like incel in a basement

railing against women, is unmarried, has no children, does not connect himself in obligations to others, to community, to any of the things that build the kind of civilization he claims to want.

Doug Wilson, this Christian Nationals pastor, who, as you mentioned, is, you know, the founder of the sect Pete Hegseth is in.

Pete Hegseth has tweeted out Doug Wilson's attacks on women voting.

Doug Wilson, who, like...

has severed his Christianity from all of the humility and care and compassion and radicalism that you just read on the literal words of the Bible.

I mean, where is the Sermon of the Mount in any of his work?

I find it appalling.

This was the part that I actually found myself having a more emotional reaction to.

Like, where are any good men here?

I'm not against the critique that the left did not create space for a healthy vision of masculinity.