Ezra Klein

But one of the things happening on Dr. Oz was like there was a network behind that.

I mean, there were gatekeepers.

There were people who didn't want to see their stock price go down if something went wrong.

And now it's a complete wild west boosted by algorithmic interest.

And I think it's going to push us into a real period of like a longevity and optimization focused world.

Because like there's going to be money for it.

There's going to be attention for it.

And so, yeah, I mean, a lot of people in this country are very, very sick and what they need is treatment for chronic illness.

But I think there's gonna be a real push in the system towards treating these people who what they are is not very sick.

What they are is well and they want to be weller.

I mean, this goes to something that you wrote about in a piece you did for The Times, which is that these are the first blockbuster drugs to collide with our wellness-obsessed algorithmic age.

And yeah, I mean, I must have clicked at some point on Reddit who tried content on X, and now every time I turn on...

The system, the platform, I get these videos from people like, tell me how great retitutride is.

And there's a huge boom in people just ordering peptides from places where they can't really tell what's in them.

The New Yorker tested some of these and found a lot of them have...

lead or impurities or things you don't want or they're not at the right dose.

There's something wrong.

We got these blockbuster drugs and you might expect everybody to be really excited and be on them.

But it seems to have exploded into this biohacking moment in which it's like if something like Magovi could exist, well, then who knows what is out there?

And you should order it from China and inject it into yourself and find out.