Ezra Klein
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And it says to stop their progress now or worse, to make them go backwards would be a stick in the spokes of the most promising broadband deployment plans we have ever seen. End scene.
And it says to stop their progress now or worse, to make them go backwards would be a stick in the spokes of the most promising broadband deployment plans we have ever seen. End scene.
One of the things you can see here is if you just look at 18-year-olds, 18-year-old women of color are the only of the four that actually, you know, voted that Harris won. Trump narrowly won, you know, non-white men.
One of the things you can see here is if you just look at 18-year-olds, 18-year-old women of color are the only of the four that actually, you know, voted that Harris won. Trump narrowly won, you know, non-white men.
It is a real shift. This is the thing I am the most shocked by, I think, in the last four years is that young people have gone from being the most progressive generation since the baby boomers, and maybe in some ways more so, to becoming potentially the most conservative.
It is a real shift. This is the thing I am the most shocked by, I think, in the last four years is that young people have gone from being the most progressive generation since the baby boomers, and maybe in some ways more so, to becoming potentially the most conservative.
Oh man, I'm like beside myself thrilled, right? Look, you write a book and you spend years on it. And mostly you spend those years wishing you had not decided to write a book. That is the story of both of my books, right? I signed the book. At some point I'm like, oh no, I have to write this thing. And I spend a year being like, I had a good life. I didn't need to do this to myself.
Oh man, I'm like beside myself thrilled, right? Look, you write a book and you spend years on it. And mostly you spend those years wishing you had not decided to write a book. That is the story of both of my books, right? I signed the book. At some point I'm like, oh no, I have to write this thing. And I spend a year being like, I had a good life. I didn't need to do this to myself.
Yeah, it's a lot of rumination. And then what you want is for that thing you put all this time and energy into to not just slip soundlessly beneath the waves. This is different, though. I've never – I mean, I have people write books on my show. I'm pretty familiar with the book publishing process.
Yeah, it's a lot of rumination. And then what you want is for that thing you put all this time and energy into to not just slip soundlessly beneath the waves. This is different, though. I've never – I mean, I have people write books on my show. I'm pretty familiar with the book publishing process.
I think the way you know your book is doing well is a number of people who haven't read it who have developed a strong opinion on it. I don't get severance. Have you watched it? I have not watched it. What you're trying to create with the book is a discourse-generating object, right? Some set of people are reading the book. More will read the book, hopefully, over time.
I think the way you know your book is doing well is a number of people who haven't read it who have developed a strong opinion on it. I don't get severance. Have you watched it? I have not watched it. What you're trying to create with the book is a discourse-generating object, right? Some set of people are reading the book. More will read the book, hopefully, over time.
But it has become a huge object of argumentation for people who haven't read the book. And in a weird way, I kind of think that's a big part of what books do. They're artifacts of the ground of conversation people already want to have. They're an excuse for people to begin thinking about something and debating something. The Anxious Generation by John Haidt, I think, was a version of that.
But it has become a huge object of argumentation for people who haven't read the book. And in a weird way, I kind of think that's a big part of what books do. They're artifacts of the ground of conversation people already want to have. They're an excuse for people to begin thinking about something and debating something. The Anxious Generation by John Haidt, I think, was a version of that.
It wasn't like nobody had thought of maybe having all these phones in schools are bad before he wrote that, but it created a structured way to have that debate. And I think this has, to our delight, along with some other books, Mark Dunkelman's Why Nothing Works, Yoni Applebaum's Stuck, there's a kind of moment here that people are apprehending in different ways.
It wasn't like nobody had thought of maybe having all these phones in schools are bad before he wrote that, but it created a structured way to have that debate. And I think this has, to our delight, along with some other books, Mark Dunkelman's Why Nothing Works, Yoni Applebaum's Stuck, there's a kind of moment here that people are apprehending in different ways.
And yeah, I mean, to write a book that people care about in the year of our Lord 2025, like what a goddamn gift. A book? Book?
And yeah, I mean, to write a book that people care about in the year of our Lord 2025, like what a goddamn gift. A book? Book?
It's always like hard to say when it really starts. The piece I write that I think kicks us off in a way is in 2021. And it's called The Economic Mistake The Left Is Finally Confronting. But I can also see a lot of early threads of it in some earlier pieces I write about California in the couple of years before that. I have a piece, I forget what that piece is called, but where I make this.
It's always like hard to say when it really starts. The piece I write that I think kicks us off in a way is in 2021. And it's called The Economic Mistake The Left Is Finally Confronting. But I can also see a lot of early threads of it in some earlier pieces I write about California in the couple of years before that. I have a piece, I forget what that piece is called, but where I make this.