Ezra Klein

And I still did badly on the essays because it wasn't what they wanted for me in some way or another. Right. And over time, I just don't have that. I mean, that was the broad experience of my life that I couldn't fit what I did to what the world wanted for me. And now I'm just much better at doing that in ways that are not related to my course of interest.

And I still did badly on the essays because it wasn't what they wanted for me in some way or another. Right. And over time, I just don't have that. I mean, that was the broad experience of my life that I couldn't fit what I did to what the world wanted for me. And now I'm just much better at doing that in ways that are not related to my course of interest.

I'm not trying to over extrapolate my experience. It's actually important to me not to over extrapolate my experience. But something I've seen you talk about is this quality of when students find the teacher, find the subject, find the approach that activates them.

I'm not trying to over extrapolate my experience. It's actually important to me not to over extrapolate my experience. But something I've seen you talk about is this quality of when students find the teacher, find the subject, find the approach that activates them.

that all of a sudden the things that are not that activating to them become easier, that there is a sort of lock and a key dynamic to learning.

that all of a sudden the things that are not that activating to them become easier, that there is a sort of lock and a key dynamic to learning.

So then this gets to the AI optimist case. And I take the AI optimist case as something like this. It's pretty hard to do personalized learning, even if you have examples that you've seen work. Because you have one teacher, it's a classroom of 20, 30 kids oftentimes. But AI makes this completely different. AI gives you more tutors than there are children.

So then this gets to the AI optimist case. And I take the AI optimist case as something like this. It's pretty hard to do personalized learning, even if you have examples that you've seen work. Because you have one teacher, it's a classroom of 20, 30 kids oftentimes. But AI makes this completely different. AI gives you more tutors than there are children.

It allows you to have tutors who adapt to that kid's individual learning style in any way you want it to, in any way they want it to. If this kid is a visual learner, it can do visual learning. If pop quizzes are helpful for them, they can do pop quizzes. It can turn it into a podcast they listen to if you are more audio focused.

It allows you to have tutors who adapt to that kid's individual learning style in any way you want it to, in any way they want it to. If this kid is a visual learner, it can do visual learning. If pop quizzes are helpful for them, they can do pop quizzes. It can turn it into a podcast they listen to if you are more audio focused.

Everything can be turned into a poem if you absorb information better through the sonnet form. That as we get better at this, And as we build these systems and tune them better, although they're already pretty capable here, that our ability to personalize education using artificial intelligence as tutors will be like nothing ever seen before in human history.

Everything can be turned into a poem if you absorb information better through the sonnet form. That as we get better at this, And as we build these systems and tune them better, although they're already pretty capable here, that our ability to personalize education using artificial intelligence as tutors will be like nothing ever seen before in human history.

It's a complete quantum leap in educational possibility. And as such, it allows you to bring every child into their educational utopia, whatever that is, to spark them, to turn them on, to make them into an explorer and How do you feel about that more utopic vision?

It's a complete quantum leap in educational possibility. And as such, it allows you to bring every child into their educational utopia, whatever that is, to spark them, to turn them on, to make them into an explorer and How do you feel about that more utopic vision?

Well, let me push you on this for a second before you go here, because if I'm taking the position of the AI optimist, What I'd say is, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying the AI will be better than the teachers.

Well, let me push you on this for a second before you go here, because if I'm taking the position of the AI optimist, What I'd say is, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying the AI will be better than the teachers.

If we are saying that AI is going to be better than the median for many people at many kinds of work, why would we not assume that this system we will be able to build in six years, given how fast these things are developing, won't per kid... be better than the teacher. I'm not saying I believe this, but I want to make you argue with the AI optimist case.

If we are saying that AI is going to be better than the median for many people at many kinds of work, why would we not assume that this system we will be able to build in six years, given how fast these things are developing, won't per kid... be better than the teacher. I'm not saying I believe this, but I want to make you argue with the AI optimist case.

I guess another way you might think about it is that this changes the job of the teacher quite substantially. Absolutely. So, and I will say, I think I don't believe what I'm about to say. So I don't want to get yelled at by everybody for every take I'm on. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to my beloved audience. My beloved audience. Fair enough. But,

I guess another way you might think about it is that this changes the job of the teacher quite substantially. Absolutely. So, and I will say, I think I don't believe what I'm about to say. So I don't want to get yelled at by everybody for every take I'm on. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to my beloved audience. My beloved audience. Fair enough. But,