Ezra Klein

One thing I've observed is that it seems to me that where AI is going to push is towards the skills of the manager, the editor, the supervisor, the fact checker in a way. And often away from the skills, which are right now more numerous and needed in more numerous quantities, of the worker, of the writer, of, in this case, maybe the teacher.

One thing I've observed is that it seems to me that where AI is going to push is towards the skills of the manager, the editor, the supervisor, the fact checker in a way. And often away from the skills, which are right now more numerous and needed in more numerous quantities, of the worker, of the writer, of, in this case, maybe the teacher.

So if you think about that world that you were just describing as the one we don't want a second ago, where you have 25 kids in a class, they're all staring at a screen. They're all working with an individualized AI tutor. Right.

So if you think about that world that you were just describing as the one we don't want a second ago, where you have 25 kids in a class, they're all staring at a screen. They're all working with an individualized AI tutor. Right.

You could imagine a world, if you think about every one of those screens, as a junior teacher, as an individual tutor, that there's some master teacher in the room who the kids can go talk to, who can be pulled in to sort of oversee the learning, to reshape what's happening. There is testing. There are things that are trying to help us evaluate how the kids are doing.

You could imagine a world, if you think about every one of those screens, as a junior teacher, as an individual tutor, that there's some master teacher in the room who the kids can go talk to, who can be pulled in to sort of oversee the learning, to reshape what's happening. There is testing. There are things that are trying to help us evaluate how the kids are doing.

But the teacher who's already managing a classroom of students is now also, in a way, managing a classroom of students helpers, of tutors. I think that would be the kind of vision you would hear from the more AI-pilled among us. Right.

But the teacher who's already managing a classroom of students is now also, in a way, managing a classroom of students helpers, of tutors. I think that would be the kind of vision you would hear from the more AI-pilled among us. Right.

Here's where I actually am. I think we've just been going through a catastrophic experiment with screens and children. And right now, I think we are starting to figure out that this was a bad idea. And schools are banning phones. My sense is that they are not relying very much on laptops and iPads. There's a big vogue for a while of every kid gets their own laptop or tablet.

Here's where I actually am. I think we've just been going through a catastrophic experiment with screens and children. And right now, I think we are starting to figure out that this was a bad idea. And schools are banning phones. My sense is that they are not relying very much on laptops and iPads. There's a big vogue for a while of every kid gets their own laptop or tablet.

I think that's beginning to go away if I'm reading the tea leaves of this right. And so I feel a bit better about that as a parent of young kids. I really feel badly for the parents whose kids have been navigating this over the past 10 or 15, 10 years, let's call it. And right now I see AI coming, and I don't think we understand it at all. I don't think we understand how to teach with it.

I think that's beginning to go away if I'm reading the tea leaves of this right. And so I feel a bit better about that as a parent of young kids. I really feel badly for the parents whose kids have been navigating this over the past 10 or 15, 10 years, let's call it. And right now I see AI coming, and I don't think we understand it at all. I don't think we understand how to teach with it.

I don't think the studies we're doing right now are good studies yet. There are too many other effects we're not going to be measuring. I think there's the sort of narrow thing that a program does and then what it does for a kid to be staring at a screen all the time in a deeper way. I believe human beings are embodied.

I don't think the studies we're doing right now are good studies yet. There are too many other effects we're not going to be measuring. I think there's the sort of narrow thing that a program does and then what it does for a kid to be staring at a screen all the time in a deeper way. I believe human beings are embodied.

And if you made me choose between sending my kids to a school that has no screens at all and one that is trying the latest in AI technology, I would send them to school with no screens at all in a second. But... We're going to be working through this somehow.

And if you made me choose between sending my kids to a school that has no screens at all and one that is trying the latest in AI technology, I would send them to school with no screens at all in a second. But... We're going to be working through this somehow.

And what scares me, putting aside what world my kids graduate into, is them moving into schools at the exact time that they don't know what the hell to do with this technology. And they're about to try a lot of things that don't work and probably try it badly.

And what scares me, putting aside what world my kids graduate into, is them moving into schools at the exact time that they don't know what the hell to do with this technology. And they're about to try a lot of things that don't work and probably try it badly.

And I wonder, as somebody who's tracked this, what you think the lessons of what I consider, at least, the screens and phones debacle of the 2010s or the 2000s have been.

And I wonder, as somebody who's tracked this, what you think the lessons of what I consider, at least, the screens and phones debacle of the 2010s or the 2000s have been.