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And it gets thrown back in their faces in these, you know, ads, you know, where Kamala Harris is talking about gender reassignment surgery for, you know, immigrants in prisons.

And I mean, this all came out of very certain culture.

And...

And Democrats, like it led in part, it's not the only thing.

I mean, there was inflation and a lot of other causal factors, but it led in part to a pretty devastating loss.

But now like the fever swamp that matters is on the right and they control X. And Elon Musk, I've had people on the right say to me that Elon Musk has created a huge problem for them.

because he didn't realize it but the or maybe didn't care but it was actually the liberal moderators who were solving the right wing's misogyny and neo-nazi problem for the right and now all those people are out and nick fuentes and everybody else is out in public and if the left can find an appealing politics for itself

It does have this opportunity of facing a right that has driven itself somewhat crazy and has many of the key people associated with it who are quite influential just offering an incredible and almost endless series of terrible things they've said or terrible people they've associated with.

Who, you know, normie voters in Ohio and Colorado are not, you know, that's not what they were looking for.

Does he know who runs the federal government right now, Doug Wilson?

Like Donald Trump and Doge just didn't manage to fire Nick Fuentes as paymaster.

Yeah.

I think that's a good place to end.

Always our final question.

What are a few books you'd recommend to the audience?

I can't believe you did that to California here at the end of the show.

Helen Lewis, thank you very much.

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