Ezra Klein

I often think that the...

The virtue that you see the most in the Old Testament that we barely ever talk about now is hospitality.

The amount of, well, we welcomed him into the tent and we washed his feet.

And I think there's a way in which you could, you know, read the ideals of many religions to say, you know, we should not have borders.

These are all our neighbors.

These are all, there is no stranger.

And of course, nations don't work that way.

There's been, you know, over the last four or five years, certainly the Biden era, a tremendous amount of immigration and much of it illegal or much of it people coming and claiming asylum in huge numbers.

This led to a tremendous amount of anger.

Yeah.

And it's led now to a tremendous amount of cruelty.

So how do you balance the different forces, moral imperatives, national and state needs, the things you hear from your neighbors in your politics?

I don't think most people would find that to be enough, though.

I mean, to say that, you know, we should be welcoming of immigrants, you know, except when there's a threat to public safety, I think that for most people would not be enough.

That isn't a limiting thing.

principle that keeps you from feeling, you know, certainly from what I'm told from people, and I come from myself a border state, you know, can be very overwhelmed.

Texans threw Democrats out at this point a fair amount of time ago.

I don't know exactly how many years it's been since there's been a statewide Democrat in Texas, but yes, I believe it's 30.

What is it that, to you, so many Texans don't like about Democrats?

And what does the Democratic Party, the national party, not an individual candidate in Texas, what would the national party have to do to be more appealing to Texans or to make Texans who have given up on it or felt rejected by it feel seen?