Ezra Klein

We do not have to try to solve every problem in society through an individual housing project. Building affordable housing is hard enough. It's not impossible, but it's difficult to do. You do have to talk with the neighbors, right? It's never going to be trivial to build a 500-unit apartment building But instead, we layer on all these external and additional agenda items.

We do not have to try to solve every problem in society through an individual housing project. Building affordable housing is hard enough. It's not impossible, but it's difficult to do. You do have to talk with the neighbors, right? It's never going to be trivial to build a 500-unit apartment building But instead, we layer on all these external and additional agenda items.

I call this everything bagel liberalism. Because, like, you know, you sprinkle just enough on the bagel and it's great. But if you saw everything everywhere all at once, you put everything on the everything bagel and it becomes a black hole from which nothing can escape. And so the need to deregulate government, right? I saw some of Elon Musk's marathon appearance on your show.

I call this everything bagel liberalism. Because, like, you know, you sprinkle just enough on the bagel and it's great. But if you saw everything everywhere all at once, you put everything on the everything bagel and it becomes a black hole from which nothing can escape. And so the need to deregulate government, right? I saw some of Elon Musk's marathon appearance on your show.

I call this everything bagel liberalism. Because, like, you know, you sprinkle just enough on the bagel and it's great. But if you saw everything everywhere all at once, you put everything on the everything bagel and it becomes a black hole from which nothing can escape. And so the need to deregulate government, right? I saw some of Elon Musk's marathon appearance on your show.

And he talks about high speed rail in California. And the thing he says there that it's functionally illegal to build high speed rail in California. I got a hundred disagreements with Elon Musk right now. That's not one of them. It's functionally illegal to build high speed rail in California. Like I went out, I toured the high speed rail. I've done a lot of reporting on that.

And he talks about high speed rail in California. And the thing he says there that it's functionally illegal to build high speed rail in California. I got a hundred disagreements with Elon Musk right now. That's not one of them. It's functionally illegal to build high speed rail in California. Like I went out, I toured the high speed rail. I've done a lot of reporting on that.

And he talks about high speed rail in California. And the thing he says there that it's functionally illegal to build high speed rail in California. I got a hundred disagreements with Elon Musk right now. That's not one of them. It's functionally illegal to build high speed rail in California. Like I went out, I toured the high speed rail. I've done a lot of reporting on that.

You can't build it affordably. You just can't on time. They have no way to get the money to build the rest of it. It's not going to happen. And it's not going to happen not because you can't build high-speed rail. Europe builds high-speed rail. Japan builds high-speed rail. China builds high-speed rail. And it's not because of the private market, like, we'll only build luxury high-speed rail.

You can't build it affordably. You just can't on time. They have no way to get the money to build the rest of it. It's not going to happen. And it's not going to happen not because you can't build high-speed rail. Europe builds high-speed rail. Japan builds high-speed rail. China builds high-speed rail. And it's not because of the private market, like, we'll only build luxury high-speed rail.

You can't build it affordably. You just can't on time. They have no way to get the money to build the rest of it. It's not going to happen. And it's not going to happen not because you can't build high-speed rail. Europe builds high-speed rail. Japan builds high-speed rail. China builds high-speed rail. And it's not because of the private market, like, we'll only build luxury high-speed rail.

It's because we have so heavily regulated a public project that you can't finish it. And you definitely can't bring it in on time and affordably. And so... I really would like to uncode deregulation because, yeah, there's places where I would like to regulate more. I don't want you to be able to build a coal-fired power plant in America. I just don't want it to be possible. I think it's bad.

It's because we have so heavily regulated a public project that you can't finish it. And you definitely can't bring it in on time and affordably. And so... I really would like to uncode deregulation because, yeah, there's places where I would like to regulate more. I don't want you to be able to build a coal-fired power plant in America. I just don't want it to be possible. I think it's bad.

It's because we have so heavily regulated a public project that you can't finish it. And you definitely can't bring it in on time and affordably. And so... I really would like to uncode deregulation because, yeah, there's places where I would like to regulate more. I don't want you to be able to build a coal-fired power plant in America. I just don't want it to be possible. I think it's bad.

But I do want it to be possible to build high-speed rail and affordable housing, including through the public market. And one thing my friends on the left, I think, really underrate is how hard they've made it for the government to act. They believe in government, but if you believe in government, then you have to make it possible for government to complete projects.

But I do want it to be possible to build high-speed rail and affordable housing, including through the public market. And one thing my friends on the left, I think, really underrate is how hard they've made it for the government to act. They believe in government, but if you believe in government, then you have to make it possible for government to complete projects.

But I do want it to be possible to build high-speed rail and affordable housing, including through the public market. And one thing my friends on the left, I think, really underrate is how hard they've made it for the government to act. They believe in government, but if you believe in government, then you have to make it possible for government to complete projects.

You have to make it possible for the people who work for government to apply their own genius and initiative. They have to have agency. I always say that we're sort of trapped right now between a party that wants government to fail and a party that won't make government work.

You have to make it possible for the people who work for government to apply their own genius and initiative. They have to have agency. I always say that we're sort of trapped right now between a party that wants government to fail and a party that won't make government work.

You have to make it possible for the people who work for government to apply their own genius and initiative. They have to have agency. I always say that we're sort of trapped right now between a party that wants government to fail and a party that won't make government work.