Ezra Klein
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He wants to make Canada the 51st state, not treat it as a longtime ally. The thing here is not that Trump is negotiating with our perceived enemies. These are his perceived allies, and he's turning our traditional allies into perceived enemies. So with him, I think it's important. Like, I am very much on the view of you talk to everybody.
He wants to make Canada the 51st state, not treat it as a longtime ally. The thing here is not that Trump is negotiating with our perceived enemies. These are his perceived allies, and he's turning our traditional allies into perceived enemies. So with him, I think it's important. Like, I am very much on the view of you talk to everybody.
He wants to make Canada the 51st state, not treat it as a longtime ally. The thing here is not that Trump is negotiating with our perceived enemies. These are his perceived allies, and he's turning our traditional allies into perceived enemies. So with him, I think it's important. Like, I am very much on the view of you talk to everybody.
And it was my view going back, you know, for some years that like that it was clear that the Biden administration needed to be pushing for negotiations over Ukraine. There was not going to be some end game here where Ukraine got all of its territory back. But, but, but, but. I don't think it is reasonable to look at what he is doing and say that is the norm that he has broken.
And it was my view going back, you know, for some years that like that it was clear that the Biden administration needed to be pushing for negotiations over Ukraine. There was not going to be some end game here where Ukraine got all of its territory back. But, but, but, but. I don't think it is reasonable to look at what he is doing and say that is the norm that he has broken.
And it was my view going back, you know, for some years that like that it was clear that the Biden administration needed to be pushing for negotiations over Ukraine. There was not going to be some end game here where Ukraine got all of its territory back. But, but, but, but. I don't think it is reasonable to look at what he is doing and say that is the norm that he has broken.
The idea that we should have negotiations. I mean, many different presidents have done many surprising things. And he's rolled back a bunch of those things. You know, Republicans have been very unfriendly to the opening that began with Cuba.
The idea that we should have negotiations. I mean, many different presidents have done many surprising things. And he's rolled back a bunch of those things. You know, Republicans have been very unfriendly to the opening that began with Cuba.
The idea that we should have negotiations. I mean, many different presidents have done many surprising things. And he's rolled back a bunch of those things. You know, Republicans have been very unfriendly to the opening that began with Cuba.
And that was like a big deal in American foreign policy, something Obama did against very heavy criticism, something that cost him and cost Democrats in Florida and among Cuban voters in the following election. So I just don't think that that's that unusual thing with Trump.
And that was like a big deal in American foreign policy, something Obama did against very heavy criticism, something that cost him and cost Democrats in Florida and among Cuban voters in the following election. So I just don't think that that's that unusual thing with Trump.
And that was like a big deal in American foreign policy, something Obama did against very heavy criticism, something that cost him and cost Democrats in Florida and among Cuban voters in the following election. So I just don't think that that's that unusual thing with Trump.
I also just want to say with the tariffs, you sort of wanted to cut the tariffs off from Doge and cut the tariffs off from this broader agenda. And one reason I don't is that I think the way to understand tariffs... Look, you can be accomplishing many different things with tariffs.
I also just want to say with the tariffs, you sort of wanted to cut the tariffs off from Doge and cut the tariffs off from this broader agenda. And one reason I don't is that I think the way to understand tariffs... Look, you can be accomplishing many different things with tariffs.
I also just want to say with the tariffs, you sort of wanted to cut the tariffs off from Doge and cut the tariffs off from this broader agenda. And one reason I don't is that I think the way to understand tariffs... Look, you can be accomplishing many different things with tariffs.
One thing, which was a theory that you heard from some people around Trump and sort of fit what he said on the campaign trail, which was Trump's position on the campaign trail was that he was going to lay down 10 to 20 percent tariffs on all imported goods and 65 percent tariffs on imported goods from China. So I think that's a bad idea for a bunch of different reasons.
One thing, which was a theory that you heard from some people around Trump and sort of fit what he said on the campaign trail, which was Trump's position on the campaign trail was that he was going to lay down 10 to 20 percent tariffs on all imported goods and 65 percent tariffs on imported goods from China. So I think that's a bad idea for a bunch of different reasons.
One thing, which was a theory that you heard from some people around Trump and sort of fit what he said on the campaign trail, which was Trump's position on the campaign trail was that he was going to lay down 10 to 20 percent tariffs on all imported goods and 65 percent tariffs on imported goods from China. So I think that's a bad idea for a bunch of different reasons.
But what that is, is a stable change in the cost structure for all corporations and all trade. And then different players can make different investment decisions in the long term based on this new cost structure. What he's doing, as Derek said, and I've had these funny experiences where I'm literally doing a podcast with a tariffs expert, and I'll be talking about the auto parts problem.
But what that is, is a stable change in the cost structure for all corporations and all trade. And then different players can make different investment decisions in the long term based on this new cost structure. What he's doing, as Derek said, and I've had these funny experiences where I'm literally doing a podcast with a tariffs expert, and I'll be talking about the auto parts problem.