Ezra Klein

It's like, that's a future you have to create, right? a future you have to call into being, a future you'll have to fight for.

It isn't so much that I found myself hopeful about what America or the world would be like in 2030 or 2040, but I find that I believe in the possibility of enough remarkable outcomes that it makes the present really worth being engaged in and really worth trying to do your small part to bend the arc of the time. in the direction that you find more just.

It isn't so much that I found myself hopeful about what America or the world would be like in 2030 or 2040, but I find that I believe in the possibility of enough remarkable outcomes that it makes the present really worth being engaged in and really worth trying to do your small part to bend the arc of the time. in the direction that you find more just.

It isn't so much that I found myself hopeful about what America or the world would be like in 2030 or 2040, but I find that I believe in the possibility of enough remarkable outcomes that it makes the present really worth being engaged in and really worth trying to do your small part to bend the arc of the time. in the direction that you find more just.

You were Lieutenant Governor then. I don't think you were mayor then.

You were Lieutenant Governor then. I don't think you were mayor then.

You were Lieutenant Governor then. I don't think you were mayor then.

How about that? Yeah, it's something we should thread into this conversation. I think people have forgotten that era of Gavin Newsom.

How about that? Yeah, it's something we should thread into this conversation. I think people have forgotten that era of Gavin Newsom.

How about that? Yeah, it's something we should thread into this conversation. I think people have forgotten that era of Gavin Newsom.

I mean, the reason the book is so rooted in California is that I am. I mean, so this book is co-authored with Derek Thompson from The Atlantic, and so we both have our own things we bring to it. But I grew up in Irvine, as you know. I went to the DC system, then I went to DC for 12 or 13, 14 years.

I mean, the reason the book is so rooted in California is that I am. I mean, so this book is co-authored with Derek Thompson from The Atlantic, and so we both have our own things we bring to it. But I grew up in Irvine, as you know. I went to the DC system, then I went to DC for 12 or 13, 14 years.

I mean, the reason the book is so rooted in California is that I am. I mean, so this book is co-authored with Derek Thompson from The Atlantic, and so we both have our own things we bring to it. But I grew up in Irvine, as you know. I went to the DC system, then I went to DC for 12 or 13, 14 years.

And I spent a bunch of time in DC covering a political system where the problem was Republicans were bad oftentimes. The things that I wanted to see happen were not happening there because they were being blocked by the Republican party. And then in 2018, I moved back here. I moved back to Oakland and then to San Francisco. And I looked around And it just wasn't doing well. People were unhappy.

And I spent a bunch of time in DC covering a political system where the problem was Republicans were bad oftentimes. The things that I wanted to see happen were not happening there because they were being blocked by the Republican party. And then in 2018, I moved back here. I moved back to Oakland and then to San Francisco. And I looked around And it just wasn't doing well. People were unhappy.

And I spent a bunch of time in DC covering a political system where the problem was Republicans were bad oftentimes. The things that I wanted to see happen were not happening there because they were being blocked by the Republican party. And then in 2018, I moved back here. I moved back to Oakland and then to San Francisco. And I looked around And it just wasn't doing well. People were unhappy.

People were leaving. I mean, you know this. You're a retail politician. You can sense people's anger. When they find out you have anything to do with politics, they tell you real quick. And we could see the housing crisis had metastasized into something that was genuinely now a crisis, not just homes are expensive. California high-speed rail has always lit me on fire. We'll get to that.

People were leaving. I mean, you know this. You're a retail politician. You can sense people's anger. When they find out you have anything to do with politics, they tell you real quick. And we could see the housing crisis had metastasized into something that was genuinely now a crisis, not just homes are expensive. California high-speed rail has always lit me on fire. We'll get to that.

People were leaving. I mean, you know this. You're a retail politician. You can sense people's anger. When they find out you have anything to do with politics, they tell you real quick. And we could see the housing crisis had metastasized into something that was genuinely now a crisis, not just homes are expensive. California high-speed rail has always lit me on fire. We'll get to that.

Yeah, we'll get to that. And when I began to, and I was thinking about clean energy, where your, I mean, the goals that you have set for clean energy in this state are remarkable. And in order to achieve them here or nationally, because the Inflation Reduction Act is passing around this time too, that I was thinking about a lot of this, we have to build faster than we have ever built.