Ezra Klein

But you should be able to in places where you're governing for the working class in theory. Keep the cost of living.

But you should be able to in places where you're governing for the working class in theory. Keep the cost of living.

But you should be able to in places where you're governing for the working class in theory. Keep the cost of living.

So you identified all this, I think, pretty well as a problem for the state and for you. So when you gave a state of the state a couple of years back, I'm genuinely forgetting the number. What was the housing goal you set?

So you identified all this, I think, pretty well as a problem for the state and for you. So when you gave a state of the state a couple of years back, I'm genuinely forgetting the number. What was the housing goal you set?

So you identified all this, I think, pretty well as a problem for the state and for you. So when you gave a state of the state a couple of years back, I'm genuinely forgetting the number. What was the housing goal you set?

You're saying that interest rates are high.

You're saying that interest rates are high.

You're saying that interest rates are high.

Yeah, ADUs now you can build. Kind of work.

Yeah, ADUs now you can build. Kind of work.

Yeah, ADUs now you can build. Kind of work.

Why did the ADU effort work? And the single family housing or multifamily housing didn't. I mean, those were big bills and we YIMBYs greeted them with delight. But I would say everybody would say that, what was it, SB9? Yeah, SB9, SB6. The cities have made it so those don't actually, it doesn't build as much housing. That's it.

Why did the ADU effort work? And the single family housing or multifamily housing didn't. I mean, those were big bills and we YIMBYs greeted them with delight. But I would say everybody would say that, what was it, SB9? Yeah, SB9, SB6. The cities have made it so those don't actually, it doesn't build as much housing. That's it.

Why did the ADU effort work? And the single family housing or multifamily housing didn't. I mean, those were big bills and we YIMBYs greeted them with delight. But I would say everybody would say that, what was it, SB9? Yeah, SB9, SB6. The cities have made it so those don't actually, it doesn't build as much housing. That's it.

Let me ask you something about the housing reforms as I flip the whole table of this podcast. It's a problem with having a podcast host on. So during the election, when Kamala Harris and then Barack Obama at the DNC, actually the other way around, Barack Obama, then Kamala Harris, were up there talking about the need to build 3 million new homes, right?

Let me ask you something about the housing reforms as I flip the whole table of this podcast. It's a problem with having a podcast host on. So during the election, when Kamala Harris and then Barack Obama at the DNC, actually the other way around, Barack Obama, then Kamala Harris, were up there talking about the need to build 3 million new homes, right?

Let me ask you something about the housing reforms as I flip the whole table of this podcast. It's a problem with having a podcast host on. So during the election, when Kamala Harris and then Barack Obama at the DNC, actually the other way around, Barack Obama, then Kamala Harris, were up there talking about the need to build 3 million new homes, right?

And really saddened like yimbies from the stage. I was thinking, man, that is a huge intellectual victory for a movement that didn't exist like 25 minutes ago. 100%. But then I started thinking and started running back through the data. I'm like, okay, how's it working out? And you look in San Francisco and housing starts aren't up. And you look in LA and they're not up.

And really saddened like yimbies from the stage. I was thinking, man, that is a huge intellectual victory for a movement that didn't exist like 25 minutes ago. 100%. But then I started thinking and started running back through the data. I'm like, okay, how's it working out? And you look in San Francisco and housing starts aren't up. And you look in LA and they're not up.