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Ezra Klein

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This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Because they did the same thing. Look, you go to the rural broadband effort, right? 2021, they pass a bipartisan infrastructure bill, say it's the biggest infrastructure bill in decades, which is not wrong.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Because they did the same thing. Look, you go to the rural broadband effort, right? 2021, they pass a bipartisan infrastructure bill, say it's the biggest infrastructure bill in decades, which is not wrong.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Yeah. And one of the big headline pieces of it is $42 billion for rural broadband. Yep. 2021, that passes. by the end of 2024, functionally nobody's hooked up to rural broadband. And me and Derek look into it and there is a 14 stage process. I mean, I'm sure California was going through it.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Yeah. And one of the big headline pieces of it is $42 billion for rural broadband. Yep. 2021, that passes. by the end of 2024, functionally nobody's hooked up to rural broadband. And me and Derek look into it and there is a 14 stage process. I mean, I'm sure California was going through it.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Yeah. And one of the big headline pieces of it is $42 billion for rural broadband. Yep. 2021, that passes. by the end of 2024, functionally nobody's hooked up to rural broadband. And me and Derek look into it and there is a 14 stage process. I mean, I'm sure California was going through it.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

A 14 stage process of they're creating a map and then the map can be challenged and there's these letters of intent and so on and so forth. And by the end of their administration of the 56 states and jurisdictions that were trying to apply for the money, three had made it through.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

A 14 stage process of they're creating a map and then the map can be challenged and there's these letters of intent and so on and so forth. And by the end of their administration of the 56 states and jurisdictions that were trying to apply for the money, three had made it through.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

A 14 stage process of they're creating a map and then the map can be challenged and there's these letters of intent and so on and so forth. And by the end of their administration of the 56 states and jurisdictions that were trying to apply for the money, three had made it through.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Which putting aside the fact that that meant all these people didn't get broadband, it also meant that they couldn't run on that. Right, so much of the political theory of the Biden administration was that if you can show liberal democracy can deliver, you will pull people out of wanting these strong men who say they're gonna burn the whole thing down and give you something out of the ashes.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Which putting aside the fact that that meant all these people didn't get broadband, it also meant that they couldn't run on that. Right, so much of the political theory of the Biden administration was that if you can show liberal democracy can deliver, you will pull people out of wanting these strong men who say they're gonna burn the whole thing down and give you something out of the ashes.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Which putting aside the fact that that meant all these people didn't get broadband, it also meant that they couldn't run on that. Right, so much of the political theory of the Biden administration was that if you can show liberal democracy can deliver, you will pull people out of wanting these strong men who say they're gonna burn the whole thing down and give you something out of the ashes.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

And if you can't really, if the things don't move fast enough, if they don't get to the people fast enough, it's much harder for liberal democracy to make the case that it delivers. I want it to deliver. I like these policies. But the speed thing is a real problem.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

And if you can't really, if the things don't move fast enough, if they don't get to the people fast enough, it's much harder for liberal democracy to make the case that it delivers. I want it to deliver. I like these policies. But the speed thing is a real problem.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

And if you can't really, if the things don't move fast enough, if they don't get to the people fast enough, it's much harder for liberal democracy to make the case that it delivers. I want it to deliver. I like these policies. But the speed thing is a real problem.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

And I'll say one more thing, because I was talking, I did an event the other night with Jon Favreau, and we were talking about high-speed rail, but I was saying that the stimulus bill under Obama That had three big headline projects for reinvestment. It had high-speed rail, it had smart grid, and it had a nationwide system of interoperable health records. I remember those days. Yeah, 0 for 3.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

And I'll say one more thing, because I was talking, I did an event the other night with Jon Favreau, and we were talking about high-speed rail, but I was saying that the stimulus bill under Obama That had three big headline projects for reinvestment. It had high-speed rail, it had smart grid, and it had a nationwide system of interoperable health records. I remember those days. Yeah, 0 for 3.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

And I'll say one more thing, because I was talking, I did an event the other night with Jon Favreau, and we were talking about high-speed rail, but I was saying that the stimulus bill under Obama That had three big headline projects for reinvestment. It had high-speed rail, it had smart grid, and it had a nationwide system of interoperable health records. I remember those days. Yeah, 0 for 3.

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Yeah. At some point, we got to be upset about this, you know?

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Yeah. At some point, we got to be upset about this, you know?

This is Gavin Newsom
And, This is Ezra Klein

Yeah. At some point, we got to be upset about this, you know?