Ezra Klein

We're just sort of more or less alert to it.

We're just sort of more or less alert to it.

I read this book and I wondered about the quality of your actual attention. Yeah. You write, and not just here in your journalism too, as if you're able to tune your attention to very deep levels of experiences, but also somehow to the cosmic and geological context in which those experiences are taking place. You sort of zoom between time scales very smoothly.

I read this book and I wondered about the quality of your actual attention. Yeah. You write, and not just here in your journalism too, as if you're able to tune your attention to very deep levels of experiences, but also somehow to the cosmic and geological context in which those experiences are taking place. You sort of zoom between time scales very smoothly.

There's a passage you have on finding and the various forms it takes that I think is quite beautiful. Do you mind reading it?

There's a passage you have on finding and the various forms it takes that I think is quite beautiful. Do you mind reading it?

Do you really experience the world this way, or is that a thing that happens as a matter of craft and writing and reflection?

Do you really experience the world this way, or is that a thing that happens as a matter of craft and writing and reflection?

Is there an experience that comes to mind for you recently where you were looking at something small and you saw something big in it or big and you saw something small in it?

Is there an experience that comes to mind for you recently where you were looking at something small and you saw something big in it or big and you saw something small in it?

There's this way of thinking about these questions where it really feels like the goal is to live in full awareness of the fragility of life, the horrors, the happiness. And then it also feels that if you really did that, how would you ever get anything done? If you were really fully present in

There's this way of thinking about these questions where it really feels like the goal is to live in full awareness of the fragility of life, the horrors, the happiness. And then it also feels that if you really did that, how would you ever get anything done? If you were really fully present in

in the beauty of each moment, the ephemerality of, you know, I go and I play soccer with my six-year-old most nights right now. And on the one hand, I know I am not enjoying it the way I want to be. I know this moment is more beautiful than the way my tired self is experiencing it, who's also thinking about bedtime and are we going to be late for dinner.

in the beauty of each moment, the ephemerality of, you know, I go and I play soccer with my six-year-old most nights right now. And on the one hand, I know I am not enjoying it the way I want to be. I know this moment is more beautiful than the way my tired self is experiencing it, who's also thinking about bedtime and are we going to be late for dinner.

And so I want to be more of the sort of monk. And then, you know, you probably understand the way that the constant compartmentalization and filtration of life is adaptive to moving through it.

And so I want to be more of the sort of monk. And then, you know, you probably understand the way that the constant compartmentalization and filtration of life is adaptive to moving through it.

And they usually don't have kids.

And they usually don't have kids.

So since finishing the writing of the book, you've had two children.

So since finishing the writing of the book, you've had two children.