Ezra Klein

I was like...

Now, maybe a smarter person than me knows there's a logical fallacy there.

I don't know.

I don't see where it is.

Or a radio receiver.

the waves that it was absorbing are gone.

Yeah.

And you shouldn't look in the TV set for the weatherman, right?

I mean, you know, that's kind of what we're doing.

But it's channeling this information from the universe.

And that's why the brain is involved in a critical way.

And if you damage the brain, you damage consciousness or anesthetize the brain or whatever.

But it's involved in a different way.

And the evidence...

kind of works the same either way, whether you say the brain generates consciousness or channels consciousness.

It's hard to make a case that one is better than the other.

The term scientists use is that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain, which sounds really scientific, but if you press, it's just abracadabra.

It doesn't really explain anything.

What is the difference between idealism and panpsychism?

Panpsychism is the idea that every little bit, every particle has a quantum of consciousness, of psyche.