Ezra Klein

But the weird thing Newsom is doing is containing these two opposite ideas in himself, which is one, like, I'll be your brawler.

But two, we will just...

disagree honestly and in public and continue the relationship with each other under those terms.

You know, he'll talk to Charlie Kirk, you know, before Charlie Kirk was killed.

He'll talk to Michael Savage.

He'll talk to Ben Shapiro.

He'll go to the left.

And Newsom is sort of, it almost seems to be making this argument that is not

that we can live here together in some way where our differences dissolve.

It's that our fights with each other can be productive.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's, I hadn't thought of it in those terms before.

It's a very Ezra Kleinist approach.

I do wonder...

whether there's also a kind of incoherence in that, narratively, that makes it a little difficult to pull off.

I don't think he's been able to synthesize them yet.

I'm not sure you can, but it's why I find his campaign very interesting.

He'll often talk about, the place right now in his rhetoric that falls the most flat for me is he'll start talking about they need to be a repairer of the breach, right?

A repairer of the breach.

It's a biblical line.

And