Ezra Klein

So how does science deal with lived experience?

It's a fantastic book.

Another book that was really influential as I was working on the stream of consciousness is a stream of consciousness novel called

by Lucy Ellman called Duck's Newburyport.

It's 1,000 pages, one sentence, and that sounds really daunting and like I'm not going to pick that up.

You can open it anywhere you want, read 10 pages.

You can listen to the audio book.

You can fall asleep, pick it up again.

It's still there.

It's like this pool you can enter.

And it's all the thoughts of this middle-class, middle-aged woman who lives in Ohio, has a home baking business, and it's everything going on in her head, including scrolling on her phone.

But you have to infer that because there's nothing to orient you.

But anyway, it's great fun and really funny and a brilliant book.

Lastly, there was several books on consciousness I like, but the one I want to recommend is Being You by Anil Seth.

He's an English neuroscientist, and it's a book about the self, and he treats the self as a perception.

He's one of the great explainers of consciousness and mental phenomenon in general.

His TED Talk about reality as a controlled hallucination has been one of the most popular ever.

He discusses that here too, but it's a really good primer on consciousness with specific attention to the self.

So those would be my three.

Michael Pollan, thank you very much.