Ezra Klein

There's the kind of putting out of memes where they've made a Studio Ghibli meme out of an immigrant crying. It's something about the interplay here of a self-conscious Christianity and a self-conscious mimetic cruelty that both feels like very appalling to me, but also unchristian as I understand it.

There's the kind of putting out of memes where they've made a Studio Ghibli meme out of an immigrant crying. It's something about the interplay here of a self-conscious Christianity and a self-conscious mimetic cruelty that both feels like very appalling to me, but also unchristian as I understand it.

You can go on, right? You're moving to the powerful here. What I'm asking about is the treatment of the powerless, which even if you believe, and I don't contest this point, that many, many, many people in this country have borne undue burdens. Like I understand that is central to liberal politics too. It is the cruelty with which poor immigrants are treated.

You can go on, right? You're moving to the powerful here. What I'm asking about is the treatment of the powerless, which even if you believe, and I don't contest this point, that many, many, many people in this country have borne undue burdens. Like I understand that is central to liberal politics too. It is the cruelty with which poor immigrants are treated.

The kind of laughing about it, that it's fine if you want to say they should be unkind to Ezra Klein, like a New York Times columnist. Right. Whatever your border policy, there should be a profound compassion for Haitians who came here fleeing some of the most desperate poverty in the world to work hard at jobs to build up a life for their families.

The kind of laughing about it, that it's fine if you want to say they should be unkind to Ezra Klein, like a New York Times columnist. Right. Whatever your border policy, there should be a profound compassion for Haitians who came here fleeing some of the most desperate poverty in the world to work hard at jobs to build up a life for their families.

There's something about the weaponization of cruelty against the powerless. It is what I'm trying to get at.

There's something about the weaponization of cruelty against the powerless. It is what I'm trying to get at.

I guess to me, one of the things I'm getting at in life broadly, but in the policies specifically or in the rhetoric, in the comportment, I think a lot about J.D. Vance, who's a person in many ways I think should have had some protection from this. I think he is Christian. I think he does think a lot about virtue and ethics. And you brought up the tariffs.

I guess to me, one of the things I'm getting at in life broadly, but in the policies specifically or in the rhetoric, in the comportment, I think a lot about J.D. Vance, who's a person in many ways I think should have had some protection from this. I think he is Christian. I think he does think a lot about virtue and ethics. And you brought up the tariffs.

I don't think there's anything unchristian about the tariffs. I think they're bad economics, not bad religion. Yeah. And a lot of these policies, I actually believe that about. I think people can have very mistaken views on policy because they are just wrong about what the policies will do in the world.

I don't think there's anything unchristian about the tariffs. I think they're bad economics, not bad religion. Yeah. And a lot of these policies, I actually believe that about. I think people can have very mistaken views on policy because they are just wrong about what the policies will do in the world.

I have had mistaken views on policies because I was wrong about what the policies would do in the world or the way they would be carried out. It's more the compatibility between what I think has become a dominant tone of And I think we're in a very unstable era in terms of our – what I might call like our political manners.

I have had mistaken views on policies because I was wrong about what the policies would do in the world or the way they would be carried out. It's more the compatibility between what I think has become a dominant tone of And I think we're in a very unstable era in terms of our – what I might call like our political manners.

Matt Iglesias had a piece today about the way a lot of his Hitler revisionism is beginning to happen out of a kind of feeling that we have – over-penalized questions about race, questions of antisemitism, and that in order to widen the boundaries of debate, you have to have on World War II revisionists. And there's a sense that this sort of politics of manners didn't work.

Matt Iglesias had a piece today about the way a lot of his Hitler revisionism is beginning to happen out of a kind of feeling that we have – over-penalized questions about race, questions of antisemitism, and that in order to widen the boundaries of debate, you have to have on World War II revisionists. And there's a sense that this sort of politics of manners didn't work.

And so politics of no manners needs to be tried now. And I think Donald Trump has sort of been an innovator and a pioneer in that. And it's created a lot of mimetic imitators who on the one hand don't have some of his, I don't know, lightness or authenticity or funniness. But on the other, it's just that

And so politics of no manners needs to be tried now. And I think Donald Trump has sort of been an innovator and a pioneer in that. And it's created a lot of mimetic imitators who on the one hand don't have some of his, I don't know, lightness or authenticity or funniness. But on the other, it's just that

I think I am weirdly, even though I'm not myself religious, a little bit idealistic about religion. I feel it's about my own religion, which I think should create very profound sympathy for refugees. And that has not been something I've seen in the past couple of years.

I think I am weirdly, even though I'm not myself religious, a little bit idealistic about religion. I feel it's about my own religion, which I think should create very profound sympathy for refugees. And that has not been something I've seen in the past couple of years.