Faiz Shakir

But if you live in the place of wanting to protect America, we should be making the you know, you know, the issue.

I tend to think that Israel politics is also at play here and that there's some concerns around the AI companies that are at play here and how do you navigate the big money that's being spent in this election cycle, which we can get into, right?

Who are the big spenders in these primaries?

And it tends to be, it's AI of two versions, right?

It's AI of artificial intelligence and it's AI of AI, American Israel Local Action Committee stuff.

Chuck, did you see in that, just to stick with that for a second, that in that wonderful NBC poll that you and I read closely, Democrats were at the bottom on approval, unfortunately, we didn't talk about that, but you see who was a little bit below that?

AI.

Understandable, and we should be.

I think if you look at, to your point, of the understandings of what upside benefits does this have to working class people living paycheck to paycheck, 60% of Americans, and you say, well, what are you possibly putting on the table to improve their lives?

There's really very, very little to nothing being put on the line for

by AI companies, by the tech oligarchs to say you're going to generally improve.

I would argue we can get down all of the rabbit hole here.

But just looking at the campaign finance side of this, they are spending tons of money, both on Super Bowl ads, which you and I watched together, but also in spending in a lot of political primaries and trying to capture the political system, which means that the candidates are not actually being populous in the way that I would like to see, articulating the harms of working class people who are very worried.

It should.

I mean, this is why it's a Bernie Sanders moment in America, because it's not about the policy agenda as much as the integrity question.

I mean, I think the integrity question of do you orient yourself of being a populist who fights for working class people and that that is who governs your sense of the fights I pick, the people for whom I am going to challenge the wealthy and the powerful.

They don't like friction.

It's almost in the DNA now.

You can sense it.

Even as we talk right now in this moment leading up to 2026, what are we putting on the table besides our hatred of Donald Trump?