Fareed Zakaria
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Because if you think the other guy is going to defect, you're going to defect first.
And that's what I worry is going to start happening.
The Canadians, you know, you look at what the Canadians did over the last 30 or 40 years.
They basically made a single bet that their future was with a tight, close integration with the United States, politically, economically, in every way.
And they now look at the way in which the United States use that dependence to try to extract concessions from them.
And they're now saying to themselves, well, we need to buy insurance.
We need to have better relations with China and with India.
And once you start going down that path,
that becomes difficult to reverse, even if a wonderful, more internationally-minded, more value-based president comes into power.
The Indians, the same way, have been thinking to themselves, oh, we need to course-correct, and we need to take care of our own situation.
And if everyone does that, at some point, you're in a very different world than the world that we created after 1945.
Yeah, some of it will depend on whether is there an election that is a kind of complete repudiation of Trump and Trumpism in 28 and the world would read that in a particular way.
Look, there's a demand for American leadership.
I mean, look at the Europeans who are very reluctant allies at various points during the Cold War and now are desperate for an America that will simply commit to the alliance.
The more the world imagines what a world without American leadership and without American power looks like, the more they want it.
The problem is the world has changed.
During the Iraq War, China was not nearly as powerful as it is today.
Russia had not been able to revive itself through all the oil revenues, consolidate power as Putin has.
The world is different today.
And America is different.