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Fareed Zakaria

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1398 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

We're actually going to try and build them and we're going to give them foreign aid.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

That whole idea that the United States saw itself as different.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

saw itself not as one more in the train of great imperial powers that, when it was their turn, had decided to act rapaciously, to extract tribute, to enforce a kind of brutal vision of dominance.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

all that was in a sense thrown away.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And I realized it was just one tweet, but there was the culmination of something Trump has been doing for a long time.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And it just left me very sad to think that the United States, this country that has really been so distinctive in its world mission, and a country that I looked up to as a kid and came to as an immigrant,

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

that the leader of that country could literally threaten to annihilate an entire people.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And when you say something like that, it sounds very abstract, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Civilization.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

What we're talking about is the life and aspirations and culture and dignity of a whole people.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

I mean, you're talking 93 million people.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

If you watch or listen to George W. Bush when he is essentially losing the war in Iraq,

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

What is striking is the difference.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Bush, for all his flaws, and he made many, many mistakes in Iraq, always looked at it as an essentially idealistic, aspirational mission.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

We were trying to help the Iraqis.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

He never demeaned Islam.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

He always tried to sort of see this as part of America's great, uplifting mission.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And you almost miss that because even in our mistakes, even in our errors, there was always that sense that, you know, we were trying to help this country do better.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

We were trying to help these people do better.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And what you're describing, I think, quite accurately is Trump approaches it not just from the point of view of the 19th century country.