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Fareed Zakaria

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1398 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

So let's just evaluate it on the merits in the sense of the genius negotiating strategy.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

What we have ended up with in a situation where we began the war with a country whose nuclear program had been completely and totally obliterated, those were Trump's words, but those were words, by the way, echoed by the head of the IDF in Israel.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Israel's atomic agency said Iran's nuclear program has been destroyed and can be kept destroyed indefinitely as long as they don't get access to nuclear materials, which we were actively denying them.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

So that was the reality of Iran.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It had been pummeled.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Its nuclear program had been destroyed.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

That was what we started with.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

What we have ended up with is a war in which Iran has lost its military and its navy and things like that.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

But to be honest, it was not using those to attack anybody.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

What it has gained

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

is a far more usable weapon than nuclear weapons.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has realized and shown the world that it can destroy the global economy, that it can block the Strait of Hormuz and that that would have a cataclysmic follow-on effect.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It now seems poised to not simply be able to hold the Gulf states and much of the world hostage because of that pivotal position it has, but it's now going to monetize that, presumably giving it $90 billion of revenue every year, which is, by the way, about twice as much as it makes selling oil.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has weakened the Gulf states, which now sit in the shadow of this tension that they have to worry about and navigate.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has brought China into the Gulf, we learned, because the Chinese had to get the Iranians to agree to this.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has weakened the dollar because these payments that are being made through the Strait of Hormuz are now being made in crypto or in yuan, China's currency.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

It has strengthened Russia because Russia is now making something on the order of four to five billion dollars extra per month because of the price of oil, which will probably stay elevated for a while.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

And it's almost wrecked the Western alliance because

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

Trump, in his frustration and desperation when he realized he wasn't getting his way, has decided to blame all of it on all America's allies as if they had somehow joined in.

The Ezra Klein Show
The Civilization Trump Destroys May Be Our Own

This would have made any difference.