Fareed Zakaria

We had to show the communist world that America was in fact the shining city on the hill.

And since then, I think what's happened is honestly, we have no competition.

We've become so powerful.

It's exactly the opposite of the MAGA narrative.

We have no check, no constraints.

I think at some level, like the power has gone to our heads and the power has gone particularly to somebody like Trump's head.

Look at the way he treats other countries, right?

The only reason you can do that is because you're so powerful.

You're unconstrained.

You don't have to worry that they're going to go over to the communist side.

Like there's something here that feels very much like it's about the arrogance of power, the ability to act in unconstrained ways.

And I kind of wonder whether...

you know, the reason we, when we were powerful in the past, there was this check, there was this sense in which, you know, you had to put forward your best front.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

The cultural divide that has developed now is one in which I think for somebody like J.D.

Vance, Russia are actually the good guys, right?

As you said, they're white, they're Christian.

In fact, Putin often makes the point of Putin is culturally a neoconservative.

I mean, he's against all the licentiousness of Western liberalism.