Fareed Zakaria

So, by the way, is Xi Jinping.

And it's why they don't like Europe.

Exactly.

They worry that the kind of acids of Western liberalism will change their societies as well.

And so in many ways, the Russians and the Chinese are not just balancing against the West geopolitically, but they're balancing against them culturally.

because they don't want these forces of modernization and liberalism to infect their societies.

But the twist now compared to the Cold War is they have allies within the West who feel the same way.

This is what's so different about this moment, whereas we've faced adversaries in the past.

We've faced ideological adversaries, geopolitical ones.

But what's strange is we now have within the West

very important strong forces that kind of agree with our enemies.

And that's what is such a kind of

That's what makes it so difficult to navigate foreign policy because you watch Trump on Russia and Ukraine, and it's pretty clear everyone tries to find some rationale.

He hates the Ukrainians, he likes the Russians.

He hates Zelensky, he likes Putin.

Zelensky is the guy who got him impeached in his first term.

His solution to peace is, I'm gonna squeeze Zelensky, try to get the Ukrainians to make all the concessions they can, hand it over to Putin,

and claim peace and say, hey, I got peace, can I please get the Nobel Peace Prize?

His problem so far is Putin wants more, right?

This is a very strange moment for the American president to be acting not as the lawyer for the embattled European democracy,