Fareed Zakaria

And you look at all of that and then... I mean, that on scale is a second Nakba.

Right.

And just remember, you know, these are 600,000 human beings.

That's women, that children who did nothing, who were in no way involved in Hezbollah's, you know, rocket campaign against Israel.

So you ask yourself, is the price that now...

a majority of Americans have an unfavorable view of Israel, that a majority of young people have a very unfavorable view of Israel.

And if you look beyond America, it's not just America.

I think the Dutch just joined the South African case in the international court.

To look at what's happening even in Germany, which for obvious historical reasons has a very strong moral urge to always see things from Israel's point of view, in Germany,

The young are being increasingly alienated by what they see and what they... So, you know, is that really good for Israel in the long run?

And for what?

It was already the most powerful country in the Middle East.

It was able to defend itself.

It was able to deter in a kind of short-term, narrow sense.

Yes, Bibi Netanyahu has found a way to push back against a lot of Israel's enemies.

And some of it, like Hezbollah was a really...

nasty organization doing bad things in terms of the way it was attacking Israel.

But you put it all together.

I mean, what Ben-Gurion said, Israel, you know, when it was founded, should be a light unto nations.

I think for most people in the world today, that is not the way they look at Israel.