Father Stephen Gadberry

Like it was, if somebody committed suicide, it was immediately like, there was a teaching for a long time that they were just immediately condemned to hell because it was murder. You're murdering yourself. Thou shalt not kill. And you've killed yourself. But the act of murder happened. Like, you committed that act of murder even though it was yourself.

Now the church recognizes, like, it's a lot more complicated than that. Now that we understand psychology and the human mind and everything. And so we recognize how, like, God sees the brokenness in that person. And it's God's desire to save, you know, broken people. You know, it's...

Now the church recognizes, like, it's a lot more complicated than that. Now that we understand psychology and the human mind and everything. And so we recognize how, like, God sees the brokenness in that person. And it's God's desire to save, you know, broken people. You know, it's...

Now the church recognizes, like, it's a lot more complicated than that. Now that we understand psychology and the human mind and everything. And so we recognize how, like, God sees the brokenness in that person. And it's God's desire to save, you know, broken people. You know, it's...

kind of hard to to say that like yeah short answer can they go to heaven yeah they can definitely go to heaven does it definitely mean they're going to heaven no i don't know i don't know who goes to heaven or who goes to hell it's up to god i don't want to sit here though and and make it an easy out for somebody you know and that's that's um some ways like i don't

kind of hard to to say that like yeah short answer can they go to heaven yeah they can definitely go to heaven does it definitely mean they're going to heaven no i don't know i don't know who goes to heaven or who goes to hell it's up to god i don't want to sit here though and and make it an easy out for somebody you know and that's that's um some ways like i don't

kind of hard to to say that like yeah short answer can they go to heaven yeah they can definitely go to heaven does it definitely mean they're going to heaven no i don't know i don't know who goes to heaven or who goes to hell it's up to god i don't want to sit here though and and make it an easy out for somebody you know and that's that's um some ways like i don't

This is something I'm struggling with. This may have come up on one of your recent episodes on this subject. How do we talk about it in a way that doesn't give it a blessing, but actually addresses the cause? And in a way that doesn't create like a heroism in it. Does that? I don't know if that makes sense.

This is something I'm struggling with. This may have come up on one of your recent episodes on this subject. How do we talk about it in a way that doesn't give it a blessing, but actually addresses the cause? And in a way that doesn't create like a heroism in it. Does that? I don't know if that makes sense.

This is something I'm struggling with. This may have come up on one of your recent episodes on this subject. How do we talk about it in a way that doesn't give it a blessing, but actually addresses the cause? And in a way that doesn't create like a heroism in it. Does that? I don't know if that makes sense.

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Yeah, and that's what needs to be addressed. They're not. So how do we get to the heart of that? It's a bigger burden to kill yourself. Yeah, but even in my own life, not to the point of suicide, but one of the reasons we were talking earlier about boundaries and stuff, it's hard for me to ask for help because I don't want to be a burden. I grew up in a poor family.

Yeah, and that's what needs to be addressed. They're not. So how do we get to the heart of that? It's a bigger burden to kill yourself. Yeah, but even in my own life, not to the point of suicide, but one of the reasons we were talking earlier about boundaries and stuff, it's hard for me to ask for help because I don't want to be a burden. I grew up in a poor family.

Yeah, and that's what needs to be addressed. They're not. So how do we get to the heart of that? It's a bigger burden to kill yourself. Yeah, but even in my own life, not to the point of suicide, but one of the reasons we were talking earlier about boundaries and stuff, it's hard for me to ask for help because I don't want to be a burden. I grew up in a poor family.

It was hard to get by with everything, and I didn't want to be another burden. And so that's so ingrained in me that it's hard for me to ask for help. So I can understand what it's like to not want to burden somebody. So how do we tell? I'm like, you're not a burden, buddy. You're not a burden. You may be screwed up. That doesn't mean you're a burden. You still got dignity, man.