Finneas O'Connell

I know who he is.

And also imagine I feel like the real pivot for me was like I was very ambitious as a 19 year old, 20 year old, mainly because I didn't I didn't want the opportunity to go away.

I felt like we had this great thing.

I didn't want to lose it.

And I was stressed.

I was like, oh, my God, like, I don't want to fail.

And I think that then we succeeded in a bigger way than I thought we would.

And then.

we've had sort of ups and downs as everybody does.

And I was like, oh, OK, so then if I really have no control over whether something succeeds or not, I might as well just have the best time possible making the thing.

Because the couple of times in my life that I've been involved in making something that was unpleasant to make.

I didn't really care if it succeeded.

I was like, that was horrible to work on that.

Yeah.

And especially if it failed in whatever metric or capacity, I was like,

oh my God, what was the point of all that?

That was awful to do.

And then nobody even liked it.

And now I work on stuff and I'm like, well, you can't take away from me that I had this amazing summer.

I mean, it's part of the unfair thing about working with Billy for me is I'm like, I'm expected to work with people that I love so much less than my sister.