Chapter 1: What does Billie Eilish reveal about her childhood experiences?
Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We have an incredible guest today. It is the one, the only, Billie Eilish. Billie, so great, love her. And we're gonna talk about so many good things. We are gonna talk about how important it is to laugh. We're gonna talk about intrusive thoughts, what to do with them.
We're gonna talk about how much she loves to sing and how lucky we are that she loves to sing because she's the best voice in the world. We are gonna talk about how she saved an animal that was in her own walls. And we're going to talk about her new concert film, Hit Me Hard and Soft, coming out this week in theaters. So much to talk about. She's the best, Billie.
And, you know, we always like to do something on this show. We like to speak to someone who knows our guest and wants to speak well behind our guest's back. And who do we get? Phineas, of course, Phineas, her brother, her collaborator, an incredible producer and musician, writer, composer, who probably knows Billy better than anyone and very nicely is speaking to us while he drives his car in LA.
Chapter 2: How does Billie Eilish cope with intrusive thoughts?
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Chapter 3: What unique story does Billie share about her pet hamster?
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Hi, how's it going? Let me pull my car over. Oh, my God.
This is very L.A. that you're zooming while you're driving.
Yeah. Well, the softball game, the park, the Saturday morning softball game just ended. Okay, cool. I'm pulling over. I'm taking this Waymo space. Here I go. I'm pulling over to really look you in the eye and focus.
I have a question about the Waymo.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Billie provide about her creative process?
A lot of people who don't live in California don't experience this Waymo, which is a driverless car. That's right. What do you think happens if you hit a Waymo? What happens?
Yeah, I am much more blasé about cutting off a car with no driver than I am about cutting off another human being.
I know.
Yeah, I don't care.
I think it's really interesting that we treat driverless cars like with derision. Like we're like, whatever, don't let the Waymo in.
But we kind of love the little shopping cart thing that rolls around. That is adorable.
Have you ever been in an L.A. intersection where the little robot delivery machine
cart meets a waymo at the same time and they just stand there together like they're in love i assume uh i like that no i haven't i look for that's gonna be that's gonna be like you know a four leaf clover in a field yeah keep your eye out for that for that meet cute that that meet la meet cute okay i guess my what i what i wanted to ask you before we get to your question and i know you're literally pulled over on the side of the highway so we won't keep you but um you have made
point of letting us in on your creative process a lot, which I really appreciate as a person who tries to make things. What do you like about letting people in on that? Because some people don't really feel like they don't like to do that. What do you get out of showing people how you make things?
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Chapter 5: How does Billie Eilish view her relationship with her brother Finneas?
And man, I find them inspiring. You know what I mean? I see, here comes a fire truck. I'm going to wait for a beat.
I hope it's a Waymo fire truck and nobody's driving it.
Yeah, nobody driving it. I find it so inspiring as a consumer to be like, oh, that's a laptop that I could buy at the Apple store. And that's a microphone. There's a kind of a magic and mystery in hearing a great song that makes it feel unattainable to me. And I think that when I see somebody break it down, I go like, oh, wow, I could do that.
And I think also I'm always rolling my eyes in the music space at people acting like they have some secret sauce, secret ingredient thing. Yeah. And to me, it's like, no, no, there is nothing. It's all just like I had an idea and here's how it is.
Chapter 6: What does Billie say about the impact of fame on her life?
And it's probably simpler than you think it is. Or maybe it's just more tedious or painstaking. You know what I mean? Yes. That I love that quality I love and I also think that like it connects people to the to the project more like I'm a DVD behind the scenes commentary of a movie guy I love learning about the process of making the thing and I think it makes you love something more.
any creative process, like they're all kind of similar. It's like a lot of trying things in real time. And then like a lot of jokes to like get your brain off lines. Cause you're, you can't think anymore, which I, I can like, I love that you and Billy, when you work together, you do that a lot. You like use comedy to switch yourself out of a rut or out of a mood or something I've noticed. Yes.
Would you say that?
Chapter 7: How does Billie Eilish discuss the importance of laughter in her life?
Where she cracks me up so much when I make her laugh, much like your laugh or like Conan's laugh or something, like she has a laugh to me that I'm like, oh, like that makes me feel so good to make Billy laugh.
That's such an eldest child. Oh, Pindy, isn't so nice because, OK, I'm the oldest, the eldest child. We have it the worst. I'm sorry, it's the hardest. We have a lot of weight on our shoulders and we're also really always trying to get our younger sibling to laugh, feel better. We're like that. We feel, we feel a lot of obligation.
I don't know if it's different for oldest boys, but what do you like and not like about being an eldest child?
I guess the only thing I don't like is that on a good day when I feel like I'm really in the pocket, it seems like, oh, it must be cool to have an older sibling.
That's what I'm saying.
Like the period of time where I could drive her places and shit like that. I was like, this is awesome. So that's a kind of a con. Like, I wish I had a cool older sister or older brother or something.
And then the pro is just having a younger sibling is awesome, you know, and and getting to like roll your eyes with your parents about your younger sibling growing up and like they're they're being insane. Being the being the favorite. That's awesome. Like being a favorite.
Oh, my God. I know. So you talk about like, you know, liking the idea that you're Billy's protector and and you're also obviously gay. so important in her life, in her career. And you guys are also doing tremendous things separately. And what I wanted to ask, one last question is, how would you describe the way you like to work?
My fantasy is that you get in a place with somebody and the prereq is that you go in there and you already think they're talented, even if they're not successful yet. They've done something that you're like, I am attracted to that quality. I think they have an amazing voice or they're a great writer or whatever it is.
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Chapter 8: What upcoming projects does Billie Eilish mention?
And then you're like, oh, damn, like we probably only have like 90 minutes before you have that flight back to New York. Do you want to try to make something really quick? And then you make something in this kind of like pressures off, expectations have gone away sort of a thing.
And then when you're in that process, you get inspired and you get passionate and you get the kind of feeling that we all get of like, no, no, we want to make this the best it can be. But that it's all inside this kind of, you know, eggshell of like, we're just like, you know, we're just having a blast here. We're just having a great time.
And I don't think that you're a failure if you don't make something today and you don't think I'm a loser.
I don't know if you've ever met Mike Schur, who's a showrunner and writer.
I have not met him, but I'm an admirer. I know who he is.
You and Mike remind me of each other a lot. Um, and when I've heard you speak and because it's just basically this idea of like, you can decide that chaos is going to be the thing that's the agent that creates creativity or you're going to, or you can decide it's connection. And, um, sometimes there's a truly eccentric, chaotic experience that's like, holy shit, we made something.
But for the most part, like if it's chaotic and not connected, it's hard.
And also imagine I feel like the real pivot for me was like I was very ambitious as a 19 year old, 20 year old, mainly because I didn't I didn't want the opportunity to go away. I felt like we had this great thing. I didn't want to lose it. And I was stressed. I was like, oh, my God, like, I don't want to fail. And I think that then we succeeded in a bigger way than I thought we would. And then.
we've had sort of ups and downs as everybody does. And I was like, oh, OK, so then if I really have no control over whether something succeeds or not, I might as well just have the best time possible making the thing. Because the couple of times in my life that I've been involved in making something that was unpleasant to make.
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