Fiona Hill

you know kind of you know from the same kind of background what are they trying to do here

He's less willing to deal.

That's how a lot of people have described it exactly right.

Because they say, well, he's the real deal.

He's very clever.

You know, he's very disciplined.

But, you know, he seems to be, you know, very much wanting to kind of make everywhere else in, you know, the U.S.

populist, you know, nationalist, nativist image.

Yeah.

And look, this is again, I'm saying this not from a political perspective, just telling you what people are saying.

Sure.

Because it's more complicated in Europe than it appears from the United States.

I mean, you might think, I mean, you don't think this, but they might think that all of the problems are the same.

But, you know, Europe has got, and European countries individually, have very complicated histories.

And, you know, the United Kingdom, for example, isn't a nation state.

It's a state of nations.

And they seem to have missed that there are already, you know, kind of recognized peoples of the British Isles, Scots, Irish, English, Welsh and travelers and all kinds of other people.

They don't have this singular identity that they're trying to push for, you know, for example.

Well, also a cash payment scheme.

I mean, where's this cash going?